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Post by xtmw on Mar 4, 2024 21:05:46 GMT
<< Thread split from 'Central line closures 2023' - goldenarrow>>
Hoping the closure for the 23rd March is for track replacement in the Theydon Bois-Debden area? It's like a rollercoaster on that section !
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Post by gefw on Mar 5, 2024 9:25:03 GMT
Hoping the closure for the 23rd March is for track replacement in the Theydon Bois-Debden area? It's like a rollercoaster on that section ! One of the large tampers was seen departing Ruislip Depot yesterday (on the back of the lorry) so hopefully off to the East end of the line for a few weeks work to sort some of the track concerns. (culminating in a lot of use in the closure - it would be needed Sunday afternoon/night for any Track replacement work but could cover a lot of other track in the closure on the Sat!!) |
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Post by xtmw on Mar 5, 2024 16:47:37 GMT
Hoping the closure for the 23rd March is for track replacement in the Theydon Bois-Debden area? It's like a rollercoaster on that section ! so hopefully off to the East end of the line for a few weeks work to sort some of the track concerns. There's also another closure between White City and Leytonstone on 6th & 7th April. Is this closure to sort out some of the track concerns or is it for track replacement, grinding etc? Maybe we could see the removal of the TSRs after this closure? |
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 5, 2024 18:14:56 GMT
it will be good to see the revoking of the TSRs - it is somewhat tedious to ride through them
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Post by xtmw on Mar 6, 2024 14:57:07 GMT
Could just be the closures are completely unreleased to the TSRs/track concerns. Will wait to see if anyone knowledgeable has a reason behind these two closures.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Mar 6, 2024 16:25:17 GMT
The only TSRs I can remember between Leytonstone and White City are Leytonstone to Leyton, Stratford to Mile End, Shepherd's Bush to White City WB and Queensway to Lancaster Gate, Mile End to Stratford EB
I'm picking up my second half in about an hour, Leytonstone to West Ruislip and back, will check if there are any others
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 7, 2024 22:36:55 GMT
There's also another closure between White City and Leytonstone on 6th & 7th April. Is this closure to sort out some of the track concerns or is it for track replacement, grinding etc? Maybe we could see the removal of the TSRs after this closure? TTN34/24 Rail Grinding Work Between Queensway and Leyton. |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 7, 2024 23:20:34 GMT
Does that mean that even with a service suspension Queensway to Leyton there are insufficient trains to run the remaining services?
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Post by xtmw on Mar 7, 2024 23:31:54 GMT
I suppose you'd only need to run a regular service between Leytonstone - Woodford (v Hainault) and Epping and also White City to Ealing Bdwy / West Ruislip during such a big closure.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 8, 2024 7:28:40 GMT
Does that mean that even with a service suspension Queensway to Leyton there are insufficient trains to run the remaining services? The Friday service before Night Tube is based on a 71 train service, which is printed in full. 25 trains are required for the weekend services: West Ruislip-White City, every 10min Ealing Broadway-White City, every 10min Leytonstone-Epping, every 10min Leytonstone-Hainault (via Newbury Park), every 20min Woodford-Leytonstone (via Hainault), every 20min |
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Post by imran on Mar 22, 2024 15:29:13 GMT
I’m curious to know what the service patterns will be this weekend. Will there be any “Grange Hill Via Woodford” trains?
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Post by xtmw on Mar 22, 2024 15:52:50 GMT
You can sometimes catch Grange Hill v Woodford trains just at the end of the evening peak.
I'm pretty sure trains won't be terminating at Woodford but instead operating around the loop because the closure isn't branching out to Hainault.
The closure is for track work east of Loughton.
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Post by imran on Mar 22, 2024 16:39:33 GMT
East of Loughton? If that’s the case, wouldn’t it have been better if it was a Loughton to Epping closure? Or am I missing something about why this closure extends to Woodford?
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Post by xtmw on Mar 22, 2024 16:56:14 GMT
There was a closure about 2 years ago, between Epping and Woodford for rail grinding work between Epping and the points just east of Loughton. It's possible that exactly the same thing is happening. However, all I have here is 'track work east of Loughton' dosen't go into great detail so could either be tamping, rail grinding or track replacement.
Methinks it's something to do with the traction current section. Or I could be wrong.
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Post by imran on Mar 22, 2024 17:05:55 GMT
Could be anyone’s guess! Probably might be because of the traction current.
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Post by imran on Mar 22, 2024 17:10:32 GMT
so hopefully off to the East end of the line for a few weeks work to sort some of the track concerns. There's also another closure between White City and Leytonstone on 6th & 7th April. Is this closure to sort out some of the track concerns or is it for track replacement, grinding etc? Maybe we could see the removal of the TSRs after this closure? There’s also two closures scheduled for the first two weekends of June. First time in a while I think that the Central has had back to back weekend closures! Sat 1st/Sun 2nd Jun: North Acton to West Ruislip Sat 8th/Sun 9th Jun: Woodford to Hainault |
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Post by xtmw on Mar 22, 2024 17:20:07 GMT
I can find out what these are for next week but someone will most likely beat me to it!
Sat 1 - Sun 2 June is most likely for HS2 readiness works but could be wrong
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Post by goldenarrow on Mar 22, 2024 18:55:25 GMT
Mod Comment [goldenarrow]:
A gentle reminder folks to try to avoid quoting whole posts that are immediately above you. Short posts can very quickly balloon into massive walls of text which amongst other issues can make searching back very tedious.
Ta
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Post by imran on Mar 22, 2024 19:11:45 GMT
My apologies for that. I’m new to this forum and still learning my way around. I will try and avoid that in the future!
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Post by Tom on Mar 25, 2024 1:48:19 GMT
Hoping the closure for the 23rd March is for track replacement in the Theydon Bois-Debden area? I'm afraid not. Signalling Life Extension works at Debden, Theydon Bois and Epping. East of Loughton? If that’s the case, wouldn’t it have been better if it was a Loughton to Epping closure? Or am I missing something about why this closure extends to Woodford? It extends to Woodford as the testing associated with the change at Debden affects the signalling at Loughton. |
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Post by gefw on Mar 25, 2024 8:56:11 GMT
Glad to see the signalling Extn works reaching the implementation phase - I thought most of the work was room based (replacing obsolete electronics/kit) so hope plenty of other groups took advantage of track access (even the grinder or tamper) #Planning
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Post by xtmw on Mar 25, 2024 11:00:48 GMT
The signalling on the Central is pretty solid. It doesn't play up most of the time and considering it's from the late 90s it gets the job done!
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Post by gefw on Mar 25, 2024 15:18:23 GMT
Please keep your fingers crossed and touch wood that signals don't suffer the "extra something" that broke the central line fleet's back.
The signalling maintainers/tech team are doing an admirable Swan impersonation that requires a large amount of backroom/background work: juggling the reducing spares stock, predict & prevent works to keep away from the end of the reliability bath tub and chasing Siemens for spares/repairs.
This is all whilst the signal Life Extn & Incremental upgrade projects progress their longer term solutions.
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Post by Tom on Mar 25, 2024 17:07:11 GMT
I thought most of the work was room based (replacing obsolete electronics/kit) so hope plenty of other groups took advantage of track access The work is room based, but all three sites needed to be 'wheels free' for testing. |
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Post by gefw on Mar 25, 2024 17:34:24 GMT
Indeed - so Imrans surprise/comment regarding the extent of the passenger service closure is understandable (particularly for the Saturday).
Tfl really must understand and challenge the detail of the Contractors program a bit more.
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