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Post by SE13 on Mar 20, 2008 5:09:32 GMT
A THREE part question today. Part one is below, with parts two and three to follow at some point later today:  *There is no larger version of this picture* |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2008 8:09:48 GMT
Thats mainline signalling. Seeing as there's a shunt as well i'll have a stab at Wimbledon.
I certainly don't recognise it from my Bakerloo days.
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Post by happybunny on Mar 20, 2008 8:30:45 GMT
Richmond home sig
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2008 9:00:42 GMT
Richmond or Gunnersbury.
Unless it is one of many on LOROL
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2008 9:32:19 GMT
It could also be Willesden Junction, Queens Park or Harrow and Wealdstone
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Post by Oracle on Mar 20, 2008 11:15:51 GMT
If that is Richmond, does the shunt/goods signal with the letter indicator control the access spur to the Up Windsor?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2008 13:11:14 GMT
I reckon that's the Wimbledon home signal
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Post by chrish on Mar 20, 2008 15:25:41 GMT
Has to be Richmond (I hope)... IIRC there is no Calling on Light at Wimbledon.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 20, 2008 15:46:24 GMT
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Post by metman on Mar 20, 2008 16:09:09 GMT
Is that Windsor castle in the background?
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Post by happybunny on Mar 20, 2008 17:47:43 GMT
Windsor castle in the signal plate, which replaces GB then some number which I don't remember
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2008 22:31:32 GMT
The first photo is also a mirror of the second. (As a NR mainline driver, how did I not notice a dummy round the wrong way?)
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Post by Chris M on Mar 20, 2008 23:29:50 GMT
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Post by metman on Mar 21, 2008 1:05:25 GMT
Bit late to be fair-I'd have to say Richmond-the 313 gives it away!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 1:10:43 GMT
Yep, that's Richmond - GB17 if I'm not mistaken.
The theater box is not for shunting, it's for indicating which road the train gets. District T/Ops should get routes 2,3,4 or 5 (latter two most commonly - not sure if the box shows route number or platform number). Route 1 leads to a bay road that has no fourth rail, and AFAIk there are no ETDs to detect the presence of fourth-rail trains to prevent the route from being offered. The bay road at the end of route 1 is where trains can reverse onto the Up Windsor.
The only shunt near this location is for trains wrong-roading across the trailing crossover immediately beyond this signal to switch bay roads.
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Post by Colin on Mar 21, 2008 1:58:02 GMT
Nods in agreement with the Richmond answers.... District T/Ops should get routes 2,3,4 or 5 (latter two most commonly - not sure if the box shows route number or platform number). Route 1 leads to a bay road that has no fourth rail, and AFAIk there are no ETDs to detect the presence of fourth-rail trains to prevent the route from being offered. TOK - to clarify what you said: The numbers shown in the route indicator are the platform numbers (same applies at Wimbledon) - so District drivers will accept 4,5,6 or 7. As you say, platform 3 has no fourth rail - so a 3 is no good. |
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Post by SE13 on Mar 21, 2008 5:20:55 GMT
The answer is Richmond Home Signal GB17 (Taken by TBMA) At this point in time, this picture seems to be missing from the server, and will be displayed when I can find an alternative versionThe inset is Windsor Castle, as taken by dstock18 (19)  *Single size only* |
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Post by Chris M on Mar 21, 2008 12:48:03 GMT
The answer is Richmond Home Signal GB17 (Taken by TBMA) At this point in time, this picture seems to be missing from the server, and will be displayed when I can find an alternative versionSorry, it seems I can't spell  I've fixed the file names and posted it below.  (click for a larger version) |
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Post by SE13 on Mar 21, 2008 12:53:22 GMT
Odd, because I'm sure I checked them all before the month started.... Unless I went from a different list  Oh well, it's done now  |
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Post by Chris M on Mar 21, 2008 14:08:36 GMT
Nope the spelling was correct in the lists, it was the file names that were spelled wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 16:05:18 GMT
Nods in agreement with the Richmond answers.... District T/Ops should get routes 2,3,4 or 5 (latter two most commonly - not sure if the box shows route number or platform number). Route 1 leads to a bay road that has no fourth rail, and AFAIk there are no ETDs to detect the presence of fourth-rail trains to prevent the route from being offered. TOK - to clarify what you said: The numbers shown in the route indicator are the platform numbers (same applies at Wimbledon) - so District drivers will accept 4,5,6 or 7. As you say, platform 3 has no fourth rail - so a 3 is no good. IIRC, doesn't the trip stay up when you are signalled to platform 3? (over 15 years since I worked into there!) |
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Post by chrish on Mar 21, 2008 16:54:00 GMT
IIRC, doesn't the trip stay up when you are signalled to platform 3? (over 15 years since I worked into there!) I seem to recall hearing that... but I also recall hearing that the LOROL trains have tripcocks fitted... so I must be wrong on one count... HELP! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 17:37:17 GMT
IIRC, doesn't the trip stay up when you are signalled to platform 3? (over 15 years since I worked into there!) I seem to recall hearing that... but I also recall hearing that the LOROL trains have tripcocks fitted... so I must be wrong on one count... HELP! I thought the LOROL trains weren't equipped with tripcocks, but it seems I was wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_313The tripcock certainly stays up on the Wimbledon home signal if it gives a non-District route. |
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Post by TMBA on Mar 21, 2008 18:09:41 GMT
Its not too infrequent to see the ex Silverlink whatever stock they are be back tripped coming out of platform 3 at Richmond and the guard being told by the driver to reset it ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 18:27:25 GMT
Do the Overground 313s use tripcocks or AWS/TPWS beyond Queen's Park?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 18:48:50 GMT
Yes. They are fitted with Tripcocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 18:53:52 GMT
The FCC 313s need them for the GN&C too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 21:23:41 GMT
Good to see I got the signal number right ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 23:00:48 GMT
313s do have tripcocks.
They definitely need them between Drayton Park and Moorgate. I cannot remember if AWS is fitted down there, I do not think it is. I do know that in 9 & 10 there are trips before and partway along the platform which are time delayed so that if you are doing 12mph (I think) you get tripped (10mph line speed).
When going into number 3 at Richmond they get tripped, then reset. Coming out they get back tripped and if you have a decent guard, he will reset for you. If not, start walking!
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I've fixed the file names and posted it below. 
