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Post by muzer on Jul 10, 2023 13:05:34 GMT
As obviously resignalling removes the trainstops and replaces the interlocking, and I'd have thought they'd maybe use that as an opportunity to replace pneumatic points too? And if so, presumably this required all the P-gates which run off the air main to be replaced at stations?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 10, 2023 13:16:10 GMT
Trackside air mains are still in existence on sub-surface Lines, pneumatic points are still in existence at some locations: High Street Kensington Edgware Road Aldgate East Plaistow Dagenham East etc.
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Post by Tom on Jul 10, 2023 18:39:01 GMT
The outdoor sections of the Central line no longer need the air main; I don't know if it's still kept pressurised though.
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Post by ertowerty1 on Dec 7, 2023 22:09:27 GMT
THe air main serves 2 other purposes apart from containing compressed air:
Longditudial earthing conductor and support for the intermediate cable hangers between cable posts.
On the SSR, the air-main was beeing used as a Longditudial earthing conductor for traction earth faults until the continuous running rail can be implemented throhout.
It seems that projects are reluctant to decommision anything once it has no further use.
There is a general fear that disconnecting anything legacy will shut down something nobody knew still existed and/or still needed and things take considerably longer to reinstate than to remove.
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Post by zbang on Dec 8, 2023 3:41:13 GMT
And if so, presumably this required all the P-gates which run off the air main to be replaced at stations? Or to install a small compressed air plant at those stations, probably faster than gate replacement.
Re- invisible legacy systems I've been involved with projects to do just that, although not on a railway, and it can take an amazing amount of resources. In one project, we had to trace every wire and connection to make sure than nothing was using that system. On a similar tack, a colleague spent three months planning and investigating in order to remove power from a data center for 20 minutes. ("Who owns this old computer stuffed in that rack?" "The label says Rick Smith at x2345. "HR says he retired three years ago.")
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Post by gefw on Dec 10, 2023 16:06:21 GMT
As obviously resignalling removes the trainstops and replaces the interlocking, and I'd have thought they'd maybe use that as an opportunity to replace pneumatic points too? And if so, presumably this required all the P-gates which run off the air main to be replaced at stations? The newer style ticket gates are all electric. It is only the original "square/boxy" style gates that use air to drive the paddles (mainly in zone 1) Quote fixed [goldenarrow]
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