DMI London Bridge, platform 1

DMIs haven't been working on both Northern line platforms since around fortnight after the new displays on the Jubilee line were put in

Why can't they anounce the next four trains over the PA? It's a pain arriving on the platform and not knowing what's going on.

According to this video of Borough dating to 1985, the screens had only just been installed then (and ironically not working, presumably because they hadn't been activated yet) and this is the same style of screen still in place at London Bridge today. In other words, they are ancient by DMI standards.

I wouldn't say it's been months, probably only weeks since they've been not in use. There is a pre-recorded PA announcement read by a member of staff playing on a loop informing customers that the screens aren't working but rest assured the the trains come every 3-5 minutes.


Link fixed - Tom

TFL should really look to start replacing the very worst of these style of DMIs still which are still around. Its amazing that certain principle stations such as Baker street (in particular the deep level platforms) have not had these changed where the text is really starting to fade now. Another really bad example is Euston Square and perhaps Barbican

How old are the oldest examples now?

Something interesting I found out was that some of these old displays can display scroll service messages

I saw some during the time of The Queue seeing them show the message about checking @dcms on Twitter
I presume they don't have the @ sign on their system as there was a blank space where it was on newer displays

Perhaps so, however, they have replaced others at stations where you could argue a change was not even needed. Many of the stations on the central line being an example more recently, so that cannot be the reason for not changing some of the others, unless there are specific station issues which prevent this.

It may be that on lines without a budget for renewals they're replacing / repairing some defective or below specification units with ones decommissioned and removed from other stations and lines that do have such a budget. Just bringing forwards a renewal at one place to enable a more serious issue to be fixed elsewhere. I don't know, I'm not privy to that kind of thing.

I wonder why about a lot of the signage on LU nowadays.

Like why did they put the new signs for the underground at Euston on the newly restored ramp to NR platforms 8-11 in such a tiny font? And why are there parts of the Elizabeth Line / LU that contain absolutely no clues as to which direction is to what? Bereft of signage!

I'm sure it used to be someone's job to go around and think about what information is needed where, how big it should be etc.

Accessibility. Passenger flow. Risk assessment for crowding and evacuation etc.
101 reasons why the signage team shouldn't have been disbanded.

The signage on the core section of the Elizabeth line suggests it's not working.

This replaced the Signs Manual.

content.tfl.gov.uk/elizabeth-line-design-idiom.pdf

Lower case l for line is correct according to guidelines.

The lettering on the new DMIs is too small meet the viewing distance requirements. Buying off the shelf units by procurement no doubt.

Quite often on the northbound platform, just before a train is about to arrive, the DMI goes blank then says "message no loaded" before correcting itself as the train enters the station.

Odd.

I agree with the display on Bank Southbound, however if you crossover to Bank Northbound it's a different story with the tiny displays...

It did this even before they were turned off, on both platforms.
Something I find interesting is that they used to display the destination in all capitals and yet when turned back on displayed in Sentence Case, like at Moorgate or Embankment now.

Even before, the two displays were a bit weird..
On the southbound it would be 
1  MORDEN                        1 min
2  MORDEN                        2 mins  etc

But on the northbound there was an extra space between the letters:
1  E D G W A R E                1 min
2  H I G H  B A R N E T        2 mins

It did have the font for the small letters as when the train arrived it would display a single line "message not loaded" and then go back to the normal display
But just wondering why the extra space between the letters on the NB...

I'm fairly sure Embankment used to be all capitals too.. Perhaps it's a software/programming change removing the capitals - if so good on them for still maintaining them instead of replacing them with tiny displays...