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Post by xtmw on Jul 7, 2022 23:04:54 GMT
Are Woodford via Hainault trains rare now these days? Don't they operate as a shuttle service (Woodford - Hainault) now until the CLIP process is done? I saw a Woodford v Hainault train at Bank the other day
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 8, 2022 4:56:01 GMT
There is one Woodford via Hainault service every day under WTT70. After they arrive at Woodford they continue as Woodford - Hainault shuttles, replacing one of the earlier shuttles (171 and 172)
Monday - Friday
Train 023 departs Ealing Broadway 18:18, arrives Hainault 19:27, departs for Woodford 19:28
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Train 146 departs Ealing Bwy 16:57, arrives Hainault 18:03, departs 18:07 for Woodford
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Train 074 departs White City 17:49, arrives Hainault 18:45, departs 18:46 for Woodford
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Post by stapler on Jul 8, 2022 6:56:43 GMT
There is one Woodford via Hainault service every day under WTT70. After they arrive at Woodford they continue as Woodford - Hainault shuttles, replacing one of the earlier shuttles (171 and 172) Monday - Friday Train 023 departs Ealing Broadway 18:18, arrives Hainault 19:27, departs for Woodford 19:28 Saturday Train 146 departs Ealing Bwy 16:57, arrives Hainault 18:03, departs 18:07 for Woodford Sunday Train 074 departs White City 17:49, arrives Hainault 18:45, departs 18:46 for Woodford Shrugged - do you mean in your first line "after they arrive at Hainault"? |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 8, 2022 8:03:01 GMT
Maybe but until they arrive at Woodford the first time wouldn't they still be a "Woodford via Hainault" service? Otherwise it would be a Woodford via Hainault service that terminated at Hainault on the Inner Rail
PS I'm on pretty heavy duty painkillers at the moment and the pink dragon sitting on my shoulder is telling me what to type...
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 8, 2022 11:30:37 GMT
There is one Woodford via Hainault service every day under WTT70. After they arrive at Woodford they continue as Woodford - Hainault shuttles, replacing one of the earlier shuttles (171 and 172) Monday - Friday Train 023 departs Ealing Broadway 18:18, arrives Hainault 19:27, departs for Woodford 19:28 Saturday Train 146 departs Ealing Bwy 16:57, arrives Hainault 18:03, departs 18:07 for Woodford Sunday Train 074 departs White City 17:49, arrives Hainault 18:45, departs 18:46 for Woodford Which platform do they call at whilst at Hainault? |
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Post by greggygreggygreg on Jul 8, 2022 11:43:40 GMT
There is one Woodford via Hainault service every day under WTT70. After they arrive at Woodford they continue as Woodford - Hainault shuttles, replacing one of the earlier shuttles (171 and 172) Monday - Friday Train 023 departs Ealing Broadway 18:18, arrives Hainault 19:27, departs for Woodford 19:28 Saturday Train 146 departs Ealing Bwy 16:57, arrives Hainault 18:03, departs 18:07 for Woodford Sunday Train 074 departs White City 17:49, arrives Hainault 18:45, departs 18:46 for Woodford Shrugged - do you mean in your first line "after they arrive at Hainault"? They wouldn't get to Woodford until after Hainault |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 8, 2022 13:11:41 GMT
Which platform do they call at whilst at Hainault? T023 2 T146 1 T074 1 |
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 9, 2022 13:58:03 GMT
Which platform do they call at whilst at Hainault? T023 2 T146 1 T074 1 Thanks Using platform 2 might be confusing for passengers used to catching Woodford trains at platform 1. Just for the fun, here is a photo:  I probably also have a photo showing both Woodford via Hainault and Hainault via Woodford. But I am not sure where - everything is filed by 'date taken' and (as yet) I do not have any sort of index. |
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Post by towerman on Jul 9, 2022 16:01:42 GMT
Thanks Using platform 2 might be confusing for passengers used to catching Woodford trains at platform 1. Just for the fun, here is a photo: I probably also have a photo showing both Woodford via Hainault and Hainault via Woodford. But I am not sure where - everything is filed by 'date taken' and (as yet) I do not have any sort of index. In the days of the 60TS shuttle they always departed from Plat 2. |
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 9, 2022 19:13:55 GMT
In the days of the 60TS shuttle they always departed from Plat 2. Yes. I remember that. Nowadays however they tend to depart from platform 1. What would be 'very exciting' would be them departing from platform 3. I suspect though the the route (which would be via Hainault depot) would entail travelling over tracks that are not certified as suitable for trains carrying fare paying passengers. Ah well.  |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 10, 2022 5:12:54 GMT
In the days of the 60TS shuttle they always departed from Plat 2. Yes. I remember that. Nowadays however they tend to depart from platform 1. What would be 'very exciting' would be them departing from platform 3. I suspect though the the route (which would be via Hainault depot) would entail travelling over tracks that are not certified as suitable for trains carrying fare paying passengers. Ah well. To add to the confusion there is at least one train that leaves Platform 1 on the Outer Rail towards Fairlop but I can't be bothered trawling through WTT70 to find it. In my 19 years on the Central Line WTT70 is by far the worst timetable I have had to work with, clearly written by people who have never worked on the operational side of the business.
Departing from platform 3 would require going past three shunt signals (HAI 6757 at Platform 3, HAI 6763 before the wash, GRH 9261 from the wash road to Grange Hill Platform 1), we would require authorisation for each signal to carry passengers over them. |
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Post by stapler on Jul 10, 2022 6:56:51 GMT
Fifty or more years ago, at least until the advent of the ATO trial, the Woodfords generally but not always departed from the outer rail platform. There was an element of the lottery about it, just as at Hackney Downs, where just occasionally a Chingford would be diverted to the slow lines, and a porter would yell, deliberately and inaudibly at the last moment, "Chingford No4!", prompting a rush for the stairs.
The grey describers near the passimeter at Hainault AIRI were lit by a single 40w bulb, and were unreliable at the best of times......
The blue ones at Hackney Downs were better; and as a small boy, I always hoped to see a Palace Gates train announced, but never did!
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 10, 2022 8:58:09 GMT
Fifty or more years ago, at least until the advent of the ATO trial, the Woodfords generally but not always departed from the outer rail platform. Just to clarify trains leaving Hainault towards Grange Hill are "Inner Rail" and trains leaving Hainault towards Fairlop are "Outer Rail" regardless of which platform they leave from |
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 18, 2022 23:17:14 GMT
sorry, I replied in the wrong thread
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Post by Alight on Jul 29, 2022 17:29:26 GMT
What about "Grange Hill via Woodford" trains? Are these still a thing? I believe the thinking was to take the train straight to the depot, rather than continuing to Hainault and reversing from there.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 29, 2022 19:50:56 GMT
What about "Grange Hill via Woodford" trains? Are these still a thing? I believe the thinking was to take the train straight to the depot, rather than continuing to Hainault and reversing from there. M-F T26 16.32½ West Ruislip to Grange Hill via Woodford arrives 17.50¾, to Hainault 22Rd |
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Post by towerman on Jul 30, 2022 9:51:09 GMT
In the days of the 60TS shuttle they always departed from Plat 2. Yes. I remember that. Nowadays however they tend to depart from platform 1. What would be 'very exciting' would be them departing from platform 3. I suspect though the the route (which would be via Hainault depot) would entail travelling over tracks that are not certified as suitable for trains carrying fare paying passengers. Ah well. Can remember there used to be 4 shuttles in peak hours 2 off peak.Numbered 96,97,98 & 99. |
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