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Post by chris11256 on May 30, 2022 13:27:29 GMT
Does anyone know whats happened here? So far the District Line suspended to upminster all day with the Hammermith & City suspended from Liverpool Street.
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Post by roythebus on May 30, 2022 14:10:07 GMT
I had a message on FB from someone at about 10.30 saying what you say above, cable damage at Barking.
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Post by Tom on May 30, 2022 14:31:08 GMT
The incident happened alongside Barking Sidings, and then caused further damage to adjacent signalling cables. Investigations are still ongoing as to the extent of the damage.
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Post by Colin on May 30, 2022 15:22:47 GMT
This has really messed up my plan with my trainee - hope the technical staff are on their A game and can repair the damage as soon as possible!
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Post by xtmw on May 30, 2022 15:23:49 GMT
How long would something like this take to be repaired
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Post by Tom on May 30, 2022 15:43:29 GMT
It depends a lot on the extent of the damage. It's likely that some of the damaged cables are no longer manufactured and it may be necessary to do a 'cut and shut' where the existing cables are diverted into terminal boxes either side of the damage, and new cables run to bridge the gap. Some are more modern and it'll simply be a case of getting a drum out of the stores and jointing or re-running as necessary.
The last significant cable run fire was also at Barking, about ten years ago, and that was several days before the full service was reinstated. From photos I've seen today I don't think the damage is as severe, but I'm not the one on site making those decisions.
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Post by d7666 on May 30, 2022 17:53:16 GMT
22Kv feeder cable exploded at 02.30 this morning near Upney substation. Possibly connected with the signal main loss yesterday affecting West Ham, Plaistow and Barking areas. May I put on a boring pedant hat ?  I make this comment to parallel that other recent thread about "correct" use of English - correct use of symbols and units please ! Assuming that 22 is the correct quantity, it is 22 kV not 22Kv => there are three errors in the original four characters!  The ISO standard requires a space between the quantity and the symbol, the symbol is small k for kilo and capital V for Volt. As long as 'ise' v. 'ize' is an issue with some, and apostrophes with others, so k versus K, and spaces versus no spaces, etcetera, is forever for me to comment on.   |
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Post by d7666 on May 30, 2022 17:59:04 GMT
On a more serious point, todays operation of District line specials numbered in the 5xx and 7xx series enabled me to at last home in on and identify a minor but persistent issue with assets in my area. Bit extreme to need a cable explosion to uncover it, but nonetheless today has a positive outcome !
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Post by class411 on May 30, 2022 18:00:36 GMT
May I put on a boring pedant hat ? I make this comment to parallel that other recent thread about "correct" use of English - correct use of symbols and units please ! Assuming that 22 is the correct quantity, it is 22 kV not 22Kv => there are three errors in the original four characters! The ISO standard requires a space between the quantity and the symbol, the symbol is small k for kilo and capital V for Volt. As long as 'ise' v. 'ize' is an issue with some, and apostrophes with others, so k versus K, and spaces versus no spaces, etcetera, is forever for me to comment on. And don't get me started on bits v bytes in the hands of ignorant journalists and advertisers. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 30, 2022 18:02:11 GMT
May I put on a boring pedant hat ? I make this comment to parallel that other recent thread about "correct" use of English - correct use of symbols and units please ! Assuming that 22 is the correct quantity, it is 22 kV not 22Kv => there are three errors in the original four characters! Quite correct Ill informed post removed. |
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Post by d7666 on May 30, 2022 18:02:36 GMT
May I put on a boring pedant hat ? I make this comment to parallel that other recent thread about "correct" use of English - correct use of symbols and units please ! Assuming that 22 is the correct quantity, it is 22 kV not 22Kv => there are three errors in the original four characters! The ISO standard requires a space between the quantity and the symbol, the symbol is small k for kilo and capital V for Volt. As long as 'ise' v. 'ize' is an issue with some, and apostrophes with others, so k versus K, and spaces versus no spaces, etcetera, is forever for me to comment on. And don't get me started on bits v bytes in the hands of ignorant journalists and advertisers. That is because 1 out of 10 does not understand binary (half the population). |
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Post by d7666 on May 30, 2022 18:04:59 GMT
May I put on a boring pedant hat ? I make this comment to parallel that other recent thread about "correct" use of English - correct use of symbols and units please ! Assuming that 22 is the correct quantity, it is 22 kV not 22Kv => there are three errors in the original four characters! Quite correct Ill informed post removed. It was half in cheek. Could not resist in the light of the "correct English" thread. Meanwhile, back at Barking................... |
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Post by class411 on May 30, 2022 18:30:35 GMT
And don't get me started on bits v bytes in the hands of ignorant journalists and advertisers. That is because 1 out of 10 does not understand binary (half the population). Or: there are 10 types of people, those who can extrapolate. [/OFFTOPIC] |
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Post by xtmw on May 30, 2022 19:52:51 GMT
How are trains being stabled - I'm assuming Barking sidings are out of commission?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 30, 2022 20:30:43 GMT
How are trains being stabled - I'm assuming Barking sidings are out of commission? Out of commission and still full of trains that didn’t start this morning. All service trains from the west end. |
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Post by xtmw on May 30, 2022 21:10:27 GMT
How are trains being stabled - I'm assuming Barking sidings are out of commission? Out of commission and still full of trains that didn’t start this morning. All service trains from the west end. That explains why it's running with severe delays - a lot of train cancellations!! |
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Post by spsmiler on May 30, 2022 23:28:53 GMT
What a shame though that Hammersmith & City line passengers have to find their own way from Liverpool Street. In the old days they would have been able to wait on the platform for through trains at Stepney Green whilst the trains terminated at Whitechapel.
Was it not possible for the H&C trains to reverse at the West Ham siding, or even Plaistow bay platform?
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Post by d7666 on May 30, 2022 23:38:54 GMT
What a shame though that Hammersmith & City line passengers have to find their own way from Liverpool Street. In the old days they would have been able to wait on the platform for through trains at Stepney Green whilst the trains terminated at Whitechapel. Was it not possible for the H&C trains to reverse at the West Ham siding, or even Plaistow bay platform? Not sure there are enough S7 units not trapped by, or train operators not based wrong side of, the incident location to have run any more than has been run ? |
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Post by andypurk on May 31, 2022 0:44:46 GMT
What a shame though that Hammersmith & City line passengers have to find their own way from Liverpool Street. In the old days they would have been able to wait on the platform for through trains at Stepney Green whilst the trains terminated at Whitechapel. Was it not possible for the H&C trains to reverse at the West Ham siding, or even Plaistow bay platform? Of course, with the shiny new Elizabeth line, Moorgate / Liverpool Street - Whitechapel now has an alternative and the connection isn't too bad at either Moorgate or Whitechapel. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 31, 2022 4:08:27 GMT
Special services again this morning:
510-514 Wimbledon-Barking
600-604 Richmond-High Street Kensington
700-703 EBwy-Barking bay
704-710 EBwy-Tower Hill
Edgware Road normal service
Hammersmith & City no service.
Through services resumed 0855.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 31, 2022 13:10:07 GMT
1400 update:
services through Barking are now being reduced for evening peak as the temporary cable used unlikely to cope with full service.
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Post by xtmw on May 31, 2022 13:24:07 GMT
H&C also suspended
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Post by xtmw on Aug 5, 2022 8:35:20 GMT
H&C suspended, District partially suspended. Same reason as before, damaged signalling cables at Barking, what's happened here then?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 5, 2022 8:56:16 GMT
H&C suspended, District partially suspended. Same reason as before, damaged signalling cables at Barking, what's happened here then? 20-30 signalling cables cut around 16.30 yesterday, trackside near East Ham, services suspended. Repairs on-going this morning. T401-413 Olympia-Plaistow 11 trains 10min T501-503 High Street-Ealing 3 trains 20min (from 11.00 Tower-Ealing) T601-603 High Street-Richmond 3 trains 20min T070-077 Edgware Rd-Wimbledon running as booked 10min T701-703 Upminster-Dagenham East 4 train, 7min |
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Post by DWS on Aug 5, 2022 15:57:46 GMT
More problems service now suspended Whitechapel to Dagenham East, electrical fault at Bromley by Bow as well as damaged cables at Barking.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 5, 2022 16:05:12 GMT
More problems service now suspended Whitechapel to Dagenham East, electrical fault at Bromley by Bow as well as damaged cables at Barking. trains undergoing the aforementioned COP tests at Bromley. |
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Post by t697 on Aug 11, 2022 17:05:51 GMT
Yet another attempted cable theft or vandalism on active cables brings things to a halt at Barking this evening. Any idea why someone has it in for this location and what if anything can be done to stop it?
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 11, 2022 21:19:51 GMT
what a saga!
if the cause is cable theft then it forebodes ill for other locations.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 12, 2022 5:06:52 GMT
Services suspended 17.13, resumed 22.57
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Post by DWS on Aug 15, 2022 20:20:45 GMT
More signal problems at Barking this evening.
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