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Post by A60stock on Dec 6, 2021 8:20:26 GMT
All trains been terminating at harrow. Leaving the platform rammed. Tfl website shows good service. Anyone know whats happening? Last 3 trains here have stopped at harrow. Completely wrong information
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 6, 2021 9:16:09 GMT
Point failure Harrow-on-the-Hill north junction, all trains from Watford south junction routed via the local line.
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Post by A60stock on Dec 6, 2021 10:04:06 GMT
thanks, but why was the train I was on (which ran to time just about) and the following 2 after terminated at harrow?
Also surprised tfl did not state there were minor delays
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Post by roverlei on Dec 6, 2021 18:13:38 GMT
thanks, but why was the train I was on (which ran to time just about) and the following 2 after terminated at harrow? Also surprised tfl did not state there were minor delays My big beef with TfL is that they tend to pretend all is fine and well when it is not. I understand updating real-life events to the web takes time, but it doesn't seem to happen fast enough. That said, the Met Line is a disgrace right now, cancellations during the peak left, right and centre.
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Post by class411 on Dec 6, 2021 18:42:10 GMT
thanks, but why was the train I was on (which ran to time just about) and the following 2 after terminated at harrow? Also surprised tfl did not state there were minor delays My big beef with TfL is that they tend to pretend all is fine and well when it is not. I remember someone saying that it is a matter of interpretation. "A Good Service" actually means "the line has not been suspended".
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Post by Tom on Dec 6, 2021 20:00:03 GMT
"A Good Service" actually means "the line has not been suspended". That isn't the case at all. The service status definitions are here.
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Post by class411 on Dec 6, 2021 23:29:53 GMT
"A Good Service" actually means "the line has not been suspended". That isn't the case at all. The service status definitions are here. In theory, perhaps. In practice I have, on many occasions, had to endure very long waits for a train on a line that was advertising 'Good Service'. Hammersmith to Richmond is a good example, where (over the years) I have had to wait twenty minutes or more for a Richmond train whilst they were pumping Ealing Broadway trains through, and advertising a 'good service'.
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Post by t697 on Dec 7, 2021 7:06:52 GMT
Point failure Harrow-on-the-Hill north junction, all trains from Watford south junction routed via the local line. It never seems logical to the poor passenger stuck at Harrow to stop all passenger trains southbound from Harrow, when the trains have already got past the problem area just north of Harrow! They might understand the need to thin out the service, but not to effectively suspend it for a period. Needs better on the spot explanations to them.
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Post by A60stock on Dec 7, 2021 9:25:57 GMT
Point failure Harrow-on-the-Hill north junction, all trains from Watford south junction routed via the local line. It never seems logical to the poor passenger stuck at Harrow to stop all passenger trains southbound from Harrow, when the trains have already got past the problem area just north of Harrow! They might understand the need to thin out the service, but not to effectively suspend it for a period. Needs better on the spot explanations to them. yes exactly this, I cannot understand why everything was being stopped at harrow when there was no issue south of there. Also brings out the age old debate of why at least some of the harrow stoppers cant be extended to wembley park so that affected met line users can access the jubilee. Luckily in a post covid world, the rush at harrow was able to be absorbed into one aldgate train which was very quick to the city (ofcourse as there had been nothing infront of it for a while!). In a pre covid world however, the rush would have been a disaster
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 7, 2021 13:04:29 GMT
yes exactly this, I cannot understand why everything was being stopped at harrow when there was no issue south of there. Actually at 07.50 the signal operators were unable to clear any routes south of pfm.3 Baker Street, although this only lasted for 5mins the decision was probably swiftly taken to drastically thin the service south of Wembley.
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Post by rdm on Dec 7, 2021 22:58:14 GMT
That isn't the case at all. The service status definitions are here. In theory, perhaps. In practice I have, on many occasions, had to endure very long waits for a train on a line that was advertising 'Good Service'. Hammersmith to Richmond is a good example, where (over the years) I have had to wait twenty minutes or more for a Richmond train whilst they were pumping Ealing Broadway trains through, and advertising a 'good service'. I believe this depends upon the time frame as it can occur at the end of the peak service, when a number of EALING trains are actually those booked back to the Depot, running in service to Ealing Broadway to reverse empty to the Common, whereas the RICHMOND service at those times may well be at the usual off-peak intervals so one cancellation creates a gap in the service.
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Post by njr001 on Dec 14, 2021 21:53:59 GMT
Another bad day today this morning 0725 and 0736 southbound departures from Rickmansworth cancelled. I guess the only compensation it wasn’t raining or too cold to sit around for half an hour. Cancellations northbound from Baker Street at around 1300 A good service I think not.
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