1960 Tube stock ATO

Trials of the ATO system that would eventually be used on the Victoria Line commenced 5th April 1964 on the Hainault - Woodford Loop (not the "Hainault branch" Leytonstone - Hainault) with one 1960 stock train that had been modified operating a shuttle service.  Later the Woodford - Hainault shuttle was used to test the 1967 stock.

I seem to recall that someone on here found a YouTube video of it.

The point about small cabs is interesting, as many drivers who have driven 38/59/62 stocks as well as their replacements will say they prefer the former, partly because of being able to have windows or the offside door open, but more because of the ability to drive standing up.

Something like a 92 or 95 stock is very nice if one’s body happens to fit the driving position exactly, however that driving position is very specific, so a lot of people find it quite uncomfortable, especially after several hours. I can count with one hand the number of drivers who drive these trains standing up, as it’s not easy to do, especially if right handed. ATO has at least meant people can pace around.

It’s interesting how the “handle” design has varied over the years. Personally I find the S stock one awful, but then I’ve never driven one on a sustained basis so perhaps it’s just a case of getting used to it. 92, 95 and 96 stocks are pretty good in my view, but a lot of people don’t like them. A 92 stock handle is fine if you drive it from scratch, but odd if you’re used to 95 or 96 stock as the twist angle is subtly different.

Don’t recall seeing and never heard of a combined controller on 60TS. I remember well the car with the sectioned off bit, the windows were “whitewashed” like when you do decorating. I used to squint through the missed bits at the edges of the window

I remember the car that was sectioned ran for some time I believe.

In addition the hinged side cab doors were removed and infilled with a droplight window then being fitted, the Guards Panels were removed and Door controllers were fitted on the cab backwall position these were Allen West door controllers with a push button in the handle which had to be pushed in to lift the handle for the doors to open, the ATO start buttons were fitted below the cab window on the driver's side.

Yes, that must be it! It has a collar all around so must be pressed down, and not just lent across.

Also 3910 unit was never converted to ATO.It ran in the 60s as a rheostatic brake test train then the motor cars(3910/11)were used for the Track Recording Train.

I'm wondering how many of these trains actually passed the remaining BR goods trains which ran until the mid 1960s and passenger trains which ran until 1970?

Or maybe the BR trains ran at such obscure hours that the Hainault - Woodford shuttle was not in operation at the same time as them?

Certainly in the Woodford area the Class 105 diesel multiple unit trains travelled on tracks which were equipped for automatically driven trains, both 1960 and 1967 tube stocks.

Thanks for this I must try to obtain a copy as it's too new to be on the LURS historical archive.

No problem,worked on them for 15 years in the 70s & 80s.

As an aside back in the mid 60s 3908 didn't have an auto driver box under the seat,all the electronic gubbins was on racks between the cab & the fist pair of doors,the passenger windows were whited out.