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Post by mindthegap on Aug 8, 2021 20:27:51 GMT
Guys, There a quite a few stations on the old City & South London Railway now Northern Line that are very similar in design, Elephant & Castle, Kennington, Oval, Clapham South, Ballam, Tooting Bec, Tooting Broadway, Colliers Wood & South Wimbledon, which makes sense as Stockwell, Clapham North & Common were all island platforms. Borough being slightly similar. My two question are; Would King William Street (now closed) have had that design? I then saw a photo of Charing Cross and though, are there / was there any more platforms like these?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 8, 2021 20:45:17 GMT
This style dates from the 1920s Morden extension and rebuilding of the Northern from the smaller bore to the more standard 12” diameter tunnels, therefore King William Street would’ve had the previous style. The City & South London Railway ended at Clapham Common
St. James’s Park also has this style
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Post by quex on Aug 8, 2021 21:41:17 GMT
The photograph show what was something of a standard style on the UERL in the '20s. Almost all the C&SLR stations would have been refinished in this way during the reconstruction, as many of the stations were heavily rebuilt at this time (for example for escalators). That's too many "re-" words!
I believe Piccadilly Circus looked similar at the lower levels after its rebuild. Embankment and St James's Park still show much evidence of this style.
The original C&SLR stations were mainly white glazed tiled, with a frieze of a leaf motif at about waist height. Some of this survived at King William Street until relatively recently, but I think the only place it can be seen in situ on the Tube now is at Elephant & Castle, in the spiral stairs.
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Post by North End on Aug 8, 2021 22:09:10 GMT
The photograph show what was something of a standard style on the UERL in the '20s. Almost all the C&SLR stations would have been refinished in this way during the reconstruction, as many of the stations were heavily rebuilt at this time (for example for escalators). That's too many "re-" words! I believe Piccadilly Circus looked similar at the lower levels after its rebuild. Embankment and St James's Park still show much evidence of this style. The original C&SLR stations were mainly white glazed tiled, with a frieze of a leaf motif at about waist height. Some of this survived at King William Street until relatively recently, but I think the only place it can be seen in situ on the Tube now is at Elephant & Castle, in the spiral stairs. It was certainly the case at one stage that the Bank works were supposed to make some effort to preserve the King William Street tiling as far as possible. As to whether this happened, we shall no doubt find out when the project finally vacates the site. The tiling at King William Street was fairly complete and in good condition as of a decade ago, so it would certainly be a shame for it to be lost. Perhaps the biggest issue is not so much whether it’s been lost, as to how much damage has been done. On a related note, someone has been round Brompton Road of all places fixing social distancing stickers everywhere, the mind boggles why that has been done. Fortunately in this case it’s only stickers.
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 8, 2021 22:42:16 GMT
I believe Elephant & Castle is the sole remaining example of City & South London Railway tiling accessible to the public now. King William Street is entombed in development and the original remnants of Stockwell were made redundant when the rebuild for the Victoria line took place. King William Street: flic.kr/p/CAYKRcElephant & Castle: flic.kr/p/sFzpsq
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Post by Chris L on Aug 9, 2021 4:33:57 GMT
The photograph show what was something of a standard style on the UERL in the '20s. Almost all the C&SLR stations would have been refinished in this way during the reconstruction, as many of the stations were heavily rebuilt at this time (for example for escalators). That's too many "re-" words! I believe Piccadilly Circus looked similar at the lower levels after its rebuild. Embankment and St James's Park still show much evidence of this style. The original C&SLR stations were mainly white glazed tiled, with a frieze of a leaf motif at about waist height. Some of this survived at King William Street until relatively recently, but I think the only place it can be seen in situ on the Tube now is at Elephant & Castle, in the spiral stairs. The white tiles used were actually pieces of flanged vitreous enamel. I was working at Burnham Signs when the stations were modernised. We had to try and produce new tiles to match the originals. A lot were rejected in the process as they were so small in the large furnace and getting the temperature right was difficult.
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Post by burkitt on Aug 9, 2021 14:56:04 GMT
This is what remained of the CSLR tiles at King William Street when I visited in December 2019. There wasn't much of the platform left, but the stairway retained more of the tiling. The white/black/green tiling applied to many station platforms in the 1920s-1940s is sometimes attributed to Charles Holden, given he often designed the surface-level buildings, but I've seen no sources confirming this, and suspect the LU architectural office were responsible. Interestingly Piccadilly Circus never had the style of tiling on the platforms, but instead kept its Leslie Green tiling, in a slightly modified form, right up until the 1980s refurbishment. Some of the decorative pattern had been removed, but otherwise the tiling appears to be the original from 1906. The escalator shafts did have the white/black/green tile pattern though. While the passageways had a simpler white and black scheme.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 16:53:08 GMT
The passageways were of 1920s origin when the station was rebuilt, hence in that style.
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