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Post by Deep Level on May 2, 2021 13:04:17 GMT
So I found myself with a lot of time to kill and decided to do this by looking at the history of Liverpool Street/ Broad Street/ Bishopgate Stations and came across the photo below. The photo shows an entrance to Liverpool Street on the front of Broad Street Station. This has lead me to ask where this entrance would have joined what we now know as the Liverpool Street underground station, I'm assuming maybe into the SSL ticket hall somewhere? Perhaps the new Crossrail passage from this ticket hall is using the some of this? Does anyone perhaps remember using it before it closed in the 80s? Edit: For some reason the image won't embed so here's the link instead: www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/broad_street/broad_street_phil_mackie(2.1983)47.jpg |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 14:06:48 GMT
There were escalators from the west end of the Central Line platforms to a Broad Street LT ticket hall, and were the last of the original 'A' type - out of use 1951 and the last (in the up direction) in 1953. The escalator shaft was then adapted for a cable tunnel for Liverpool Street substation. The lower level landing also had a pair lifts right up into Broad Street main line station concourse but these became disused (for passengers) from c.1916. At least one was retained for the conveyance of rubbish until just before WW2.
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Post by Chris L on May 2, 2021 14:10:32 GMT
So I found myself with a lot of time to kill and decided to do this by looking at the history of Liverpool Street/ Broad Street/ Bishopgate Stations and came across the photo below. The photo shows an entrance to Liverpool Street on the front of Broad Street Station. This has lead me to ask where this entrance would have joined what we now know as the Liverpool Street underground station, I'm assuming maybe into the SSL ticket hall somewhere? Perhaps the new Crossrail passage from this ticket hall is using the some of this? Does anyone perhaps remember using it before it closed in the 80s? Edit: For some reason the image won't embed so here's the link instead: www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/broad_street/broad_street_phil_mackie(2.1983)47.jpgThe new Crossrail entrance is about where the double arrow is. The roadway is now pedestrianised. There is a link to the top of the Central line escalators which may use some of the old passage. Until recently there was an equipment room there. |
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Post by Deep Level on May 2, 2021 15:53:43 GMT
There were escalators from the west end of the Central Line platforms to a Broad Street LT ticket hall, and were the last of the original 'A' type - out of use 1951 and the last (in the up direction) in 1953. The escalator shaft was then adapted for a cable tunnel for Liverpool Street substation. The lower level landing also had a pair lifts right up into Broad Street main line station concourse but these became disused (for passengers) from c.1916. At least one was retained for the conveyance of rubbish until just before WW2. Was this in a different area to where the current escalators up to the Central line only ticket hall is? How much of the old entrance is still clearly visible to those with access? |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:59:37 GMT
Access was right at the west end of the Central Line platforms - now behind closed doors. Nothing to do with the present Central Line (west end) escalators.
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Post by spsmiler on May 3, 2021 23:37:56 GMT
Access was right at the west end of the Central Line platforms - now behind closed doors. Nothing to do with the present Central Line (west end) escalators. what a pity ... not used, not accessible to the public (maybe a future destination for a LTM hidden tour?) |
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Post by Deep Level on May 4, 2021 7:53:13 GMT
I wonder if there was ever any talk about a new entrance in the new 100 Liverpool Street development which stands on the site of the old station (although starts much further back). I feel however Broadgate may have wanted to maximise retail space instead.
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Post by North End on May 4, 2021 10:05:27 GMT
Access was right at the west end of the Central Line platforms - now behind closed doors. Nothing to do with the present Central Line (west end) escalators. what a pity ... not used, not accessible to the public (maybe a future destination for a LTM hidden tour?) I don’t think there’s a massive amount to see nowadays, sadly. The former escalator shaft (the only disused escalator shaft on LU - discounting Earl’s Court as that’s more mothballed than disused, and Alperton as it isn’t a shaft in the proper sense!) does survive and is part of a ventilation shaft arrangement serving the Central Line. However anything at top level I believe was used for the Central Line traction substation, which in turn was itself relocated as part of the Crossrail works, which presumably means this has all changed. In amongst all this is the remains of the Met-GE curve tunnel, which also seems to have landed in the middle of Crossrail works. Some years ago I had the opportunity for a Sunday morning guided tour of either Moorgate or Liverpool Street. At the time I chose Moorgate, not sure if that was the right choice now! Looking at the station plans, the disused escalator shaft, at least, does survive. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 10:57:51 GMT
Access was right at the west end of the Central Line platforms - now behind closed doors. Nothing to do with the present Central Line (west end) escalators. what a pity ... not used, not accessible to the public (maybe a future destination for a LTM hidden tour?) I very much doubt it - full of cables in the escalator shafts - H&S and all that I would assume. |
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Post by castlebar on May 4, 2021 18:08:01 GMT
On the old Broad Street station, I remember the old squeaky wooden platforms
When does anyone know when the last wooden platform was laid on a British Railway station??
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Post by Chris W on May 4, 2021 18:19:30 GMT
So I found myself with a lot of time to kill and decided to do this by looking at the history of Liverpool Street/ Broad Street/ Bishopgate Stations and came across the photo below. The photo shows an entrance to Liverpool Street on the front of Broad Street Station. This has lead me to ask where this entrance would have joined what we now know as the Liverpool Street underground station, I'm assuming maybe into the SSL ticket hall somewhere? Perhaps the new Crossrail passage from this ticket hall is using the some of this? Does anyone perhaps remember using it before it closed in the 80s? Edit: For some reason the image won't embed so here's the link instead: www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/broad_street/broad_street_phil_mackie(2.1983)47.jpgI'm aware that my reply doesn't answer the questions asked, however I've located an image that I captured of this entrance in August 1987, just days/weeks away from final demolition...
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Post by jimbo on May 4, 2021 20:41:14 GMT
I think back then there were five ticket offices at Liverpool St, more than elsewhere. Both ends of the sub-surface and Central lines and a direct route from the Southend lines.
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Post by North End on May 4, 2021 23:49:13 GMT
what a pity ... not used, not accessible to the public (maybe a future destination for a LTM hidden tour?) I very much doubt it - full of cables in the escalator shafts - H&S and all that I would assume. This may be a daft question, however does anyone have any photos (or links to same) of any of these disused areas that they’d be prepared to post or share? I’m curious to see what the disused escalator shafts in particular look like nowadays. |
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Post by Deep Level on May 5, 2021 7:05:05 GMT
So I found myself with a lot of time to kill and decided to do this by looking at the history of Liverpool Street/ Broad Street/ Bishopgate Stations and came across the photo below. The photo shows an entrance to Liverpool Street on the front of Broad Street Station. This has lead me to ask where this entrance would have joined what we now know as the Liverpool Street underground station, I'm assuming maybe into the SSL ticket hall somewhere? Perhaps the new Crossrail passage from this ticket hall is using the some of this? Does anyone perhaps remember using it before it closed in the 80s? Edit: For some reason the image won't embed so here's the link instead: www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/broad_street/broad_street_phil_mackie(2.1983)47.jpgI'm aware that my reply doesn't answer the questions asked, however I've located an image that I captured of this entrance in August 1987, just days/weeks away from final demolition... Ah so did the entrance survive longer than Broad Street station itself? |
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Post by spsmiler on May 8, 2021 11:21:57 GMT
I think back then there were five ticket offices at Liverpool St, more than elsewhere. Both ends of the sub-surface and Central lines and a direct route from the Southend lines. Are you referring to the LU station or the BR station? I can recall suggesting meeting some cousins at 'the ticket hall' at this station but the idea fell through because they could not get around the idea that there were more than one here and my telling them that I would be at the British Railways ticket hall that was upstairs / opposite the high number platforms was beyond their understanding! There are still several mainline ticket sales areas here today - but nowadays I would suggest the designated meeting place! re: London Transport ticket sales areas, the one accessed via the steps at the eastern end of the subsurface platforms was notable because it continued to sell Edmundson card sized tickets long after other ticket sales areas had switched to credit card sized paper tickets. Also, these were lime green in colour! I have one in front of me, dated 26 OC 83 (ie: October). Whenever I wanted to buy a ticket here I would aim for this ticket sales window and vaguely recall an encounter with a roving ticket inspector who was curious to know where and how I had obtained what I suspect was a very rare type of ticket. Of course my explanation satisfied him. I also vaguely recall exploring Broad Street station and noting things like disused lifts, alas I did not take photos. |
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Post by jimbo on May 8, 2021 12:28:23 GMT
I think back then there were five ticket offices at Liverpool St, more than elsewhere. Both ends of the sub-surface and Central lines and a direct route from the Southend lines. Are you referring to the LU station or the BR station? I can recall suggesting meeting some cousins at 'the ticket hall' at this station but the idea fell through because they could not get around the idea that there were more than one here and my telling them that I would be at the British Railways ticket hall that was upstairs / opposite the high number platforms was beyond their understanding! There are still several mainline ticket sales areas here today - but nowadays I would suggest the designated meeting place! re: London Transport ticket sales areas, the one accessed via the steps at the eastern end of the subsurface platforms was notable because it continued to sell Edmundson card sized tickets long after other ticket sales areas had switched to credit card sized paper tickets. Also, these were lime green in colour! I have one in front of me, dated 26 OC 83 (ie: October). Whenever I wanted to buy a ticket here I would aim for this ticket sales window and vaguely recall an encounter with a roving ticket inspector who was curious to know where and how I had obtained what I suspect was a very rare type of ticket. Of course my explanation satisfied him. I also vaguely recall exploring Broad Street station and noting things like disused lifts, alas I did not take photos. LU station only! The one you mention was in a short LU shopping arcade. The one direct from Southend lines was nearby off outer rail platform eastern end. |
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