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Post by alpinejohn on Mar 10, 2021 18:38:26 GMT
The guard's duty was to see the train safely move off a couple of cars, then retreat into his car. I recall a couple of times when a guard was distracted, once with his hat blowing away and another when a girl left on the platform was adjusting her clothing, both causing the guard to look back and crack their head on the tunnel wall. I can't recall if either was fatal. They resulted in the train continuing to the next station, where the passenger doors did not open! I had a feeling that open door running was not officially approved - but clearly that is wrong. I had not realised that guards were actually expected to lean out and actively monitor the train as it pulls away from a platform. However if guards are also getting injured by the train tunnel, then preventing that sort of danger is probably what lies behind the decision to only provide sliding down windows instead of cab side doors on the 1967 Tube stock used on the Victoria Line. Hopefully they also placed the start buttons too far away from the windows so the driver could not accidentally set the train underway whilst his head was still sticking out the window.
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Post by t697 on Mar 10, 2021 19:11:00 GMT
I seem to recall 1967TS was interlocked so the cab sliding windows had to be within about 2 inches of closed in order to be able to start in Auto. Then the windows were automatically locked from opening any further during the run.
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Post by philthetube on Mar 10, 2021 19:57:21 GMT
67 stock was never operated by guards, the concern about the opening windows was that drivers may trip in the cab and stick their head through an open window. 72 stock had the same facility but it was nearly always isolated as drivers could not walk around the cab while driving.
I do not know if it was possible to isolate the droplights, (cab windows) on 67 stock and continue in auto.
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Post by nig on Mar 10, 2021 20:22:06 GMT
67 stock was never operated by guards, the concern about the opening windows was that drivers may trip in the cab and stick their head through an open window. 72 stock had the same facility but it was nearly always isolated as drivers could not walk around the cab while driving. I do not know if it was possible to isolate the droplights, (cab windows) on 67 stock and continue in auto. No it wasn't if the interlock broke or wasn't working you would have to drive in manual and speed was limited can't rember if it was 10 or 25mph
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Post by jimbo on Mar 10, 2021 23:52:32 GMT
This was the first version of reduced speed, and I think they picked 10mph, which in effect meant 8mph if you didn't want to risk emergency brake application. Later versions picked higher speed for this reason.
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