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Post by tom73 on Nov 14, 2020 11:34:15 GMT
could the 38TS go literally anywhere on the network. Which deep level lines never ran 38TS in passenger service? Where is the most unusual (LT/LUL) location a 38TS was seen in during its working life?
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Post by hobbayne on Nov 14, 2020 11:46:58 GMT
I dont believe the 38 stock was ever in service on the Central Line.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 14, 2020 12:31:52 GMT
Where is the most unusual (LT/LUL) location a 38TS was seen in during its working life? Baker Street pfms. 2-3 Hatton Cross |
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Post by gantshill on Nov 14, 2020 13:19:03 GMT
I am sure that I saw a photo of a 1938 tube stock at Charing Cross (Jubilee) before it opened to the public. (Or it could just be wishful thinking).
But I'd agree with Baker Street Met line as the most unusual.
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 14, 2020 13:47:22 GMT
I dont believe the 38 stock was ever in service on the Central Line. Maybe not the 38s, but the 35s were. Check out Piers Connors history of the '38 Stock' page 69, shows car Nos DM 10009 and 11009 sandwiching a standard stock trailer at Blake Hall . Page 68 states: "......units on Central line Ongar shuttle from Nov 1957" |
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 14, 2020 13:50:46 GMT
could the 38TS go literally anywhere on the network. Which deep level lines never ran 38TS in passenger service? Where is the most unusual (LT/LUL) location a 38TS was seen in during its working life? I'd hazard a guess they never ran on the Victoria line? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 14, 2020 14:58:02 GMT
I dont believe the 38 stock was ever in service on the Central Line. Yes it was! (trailers only, mind)  It also ran on the Met, first very briefly on the Stanmore branch, before transfer to the Bakerloo, and later, for a longer period, on what was then the Met's East London Section |
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Post by quex on Nov 14, 2020 15:56:52 GMT
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Post by Tom on Nov 14, 2020 16:16:06 GMT
I am sure that I saw a photo of a 1938 tube stock at Charing Cross (Jubilee) before it opened to the public. (Or it could just be wishful thinking). No, I've seen the same picture. I think it was one of the old Capital Transport London Transport Scrapbooks, I would guess 1978. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 21:20:49 GMT
It was my photo - I took it. It was a crew training run on the new extension.
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Post by jimbo on Nov 15, 2020 3:12:20 GMT
1938TS trains could not work through the original CLR tunnels of the Central line without their positive shoebeams removed due to the higher outer current rail in these cramped tunnels. Trailer cars would have been OK. Other tube stocks required high-lift shoegear fitted and de-icing beams removed. 1967TS for the Hainault-Woodford shuttle could be authorised with shoebeam safety brackets removed and high-lift shoegear fitted.
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Post by jimbo on Nov 15, 2020 3:21:48 GMT
I am sure that I saw a photo of a 1938 tube stock at Charing Cross (Jubilee) before it opened to the public. (Or it could just be wishful thinking). ..... Before the Jubilee opened, the Bakerloo fleet became half 1972TS and half 1938TS. After the morning peak one of the Neasden stablers was diverted to continue south empty onto the Jubilee to Charing Cross and then shuttled back and forth to West Hampstead siding. This was for driver familiarisation training, and no effort was made to use a 1972TS, so as often as not it was a 1938TS. This continued for ages as far as I recall. The museum 38TS has also visited Charing Cross Jubilee from time to time. 1938TS in the engineering fleet, including the tunnel cleaning train, would have travelled widely. |
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Post by metman on Nov 15, 2020 14:42:11 GMT
There were also 1938 stock ballast motors and pilot cars so one can imagine they got everywhere!
It is well documented about their operation on the Isle of Wight but they even got to the Channel Islands! (Alderney)
Going back to the original question, I would suggest the 50s/60s were the golden age of the 1938 stock. They ran the Bakerloo and Northern and provided up to 15 trains on the Piccadilly.
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