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Post by MoreToJack on Jan 12, 2020 19:36:15 GMT
For the record, a station starter and a shunt are two entirely different things. I assume you mean shunt signal WZ11, in which case you would be correct.
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Post by d7666 on Jan 13, 2020 15:58:03 GMT
I did Watford <-> Chesham on Saturday, 11:51 from Watford, beer, 14:27 from Chesham.
7 trains in circuit.
For the record for those who wish to know these things I recorded:
401 21080 etc
402 21086 etc
403 21081 etc
404 21015 etc
405 21077 etc
406 21099 etc
407 21025 etc
Trains deserted, barely two dozen at any point on the ones I did.
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Nick
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Post by Tom on Jan 14, 2020 15:26:37 GMT
And just for the record, you can add the station starter shunt at Heathrow 5, WZ11, although they may modify that shortly to be displaying at all times as it's in our top 10 multi-SPaD signal list. That'll make an interesting concession to standards then! (A shunt signal associated with a colour light aspect should be suppressed unless the shunt signal is clear. In this case the Fixed Red Light is the colour light aspect, terminating the route from WZ1100.) What it probably needs is an additional Fixed Red Light more in the Train Operator's field of vision. |
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Post by philthetube on Jan 14, 2020 17:52:30 GMT
It holds the train at maximum 9mph when making shunt-moves So it's a bodge which means the operator doesn't need to worry so much about controlling speed. A bit like how at the end of the M62 I turn off the cruise control in my car and turn on the speed limiter so I don't have to worry about the 50mph speed camera. not a bodge a design feature to ensure that speed is restricted when needed, |
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Post by PiccNT on Jan 15, 2020 19:37:42 GMT
And just for the record, you can add the station starter shunt at Heathrow 5, WZ11, although they may modify that shortly to be displaying at all times as it's in our top 10 multi-SPaD signal list. That'll make an interesting concession to standards then! (A shunt signal associated with a colour light aspect should be suppressed unless the shunt signal is clear. In this case the Fixed Red Light is the colour light aspect, terminating the route from WZ1100.) What it probably needs is an additional Fixed Red Light more in the Train Operator's field of vision. Some modifications on the way including I believe re-positioning FRLWZ11 for the purpose of what you mention above. I expect another rocket for being totally off-topic! |
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Post by commuter on Jan 17, 2020 11:43:28 GMT
Likewise the other end of the siding towards Hammersmith, WD30A is similarly suppressed until a train occupies the siding. Some signals are also extinguished to prevent confusion when carrying out moves; FG22 Dagenham East inner home, EJ2 Tower Hill inner home, FF58A Barking EB when reversing via bay roads. And just for the record, you can add the station starter shunt at Heathrow 5, WZ11, although they may modify that shortly to be displaying at all times as it's in our top 10 multi-SPaD signal list. Is it not standard practice for any Fibre optic shunt to be suppressed unless it’s clear? Certainly this how it works on the Central. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 17, 2020 12:18:40 GMT
Is it not standard practice for any Fibre optic shunt to be suppressed unless it’s clear? Certainly this how it works on the Central. ED171/172 High Street Kensington; FF49 Barking are examples of permanently lit fibre optic shunt signals, as they have no associated stop signal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 13:25:53 GMT
Plus all of them in Uxbridge sidings are always lit
EC18 is also always lit from memory
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Post by commuter on Jan 17, 2020 22:11:22 GMT
Plus all of them in Uxbridge sidings are always lit EC18 is also always lit from memory They don’t have a colour light signal associated with them though? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 22:42:59 GMT
Very true they don’t
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Post by d7666 on Jan 28, 2020 14:01:09 GMT
I did Watford <-> Chesham on Saturday, 11:51 from Watford, beer, 14:27 from Chesham. 7 trains in circuit. For the record for those who wish to know these things I recorded: 401 21080 etc 402 21086 etc 403 21081 etc 404 21015 etc 405 21077 etc 406 21099 etc 407 21025 etc Trains deserted, barely two dozen at any point on the ones I did. -- Nick Above was for Saturday 11/01/20; checking for Sunday 12/01/20 they were 401 21080 402 21047 403 21085 404 21082 405 21112 406 21026 407 21100 Both lists refer to around 12:00/14:00 so don't account for any changeovers. -- Nick |
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