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Post by arun on Nov 29, 2019 11:41:56 GMT
As a pedant [pronounced pee-dant rather than ped-ant] who has spent a significant number of years on ships, I note that a diagram showing one how to get from point A to point B is actually defined as a "chart" rather than a "map". A map normally has the characteristic of being a representation of the ground with accurate distances and angles between points marked on it.
Thus M'Lud, I would suggest that Harry Beck's Map should more accurately be referred to as Harry Beck's Chart!
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Post by greggygreggygreg on Nov 29, 2019 12:12:11 GMT
As a pedant [pronounced pee-dant rather than ped-ant] who has spend a significant number of years on ships, I note that a diagram showing one how to get from point A to point B is actually defined as a "chart" rather than a "map". A map normally has the characteristic of being a representation of the ground with accurate distances and angles between points marked on it. Thus M'Lud, I would suggest that Harry Beck's Map should more accurately be referred to as Harry Beck's Chart! I think it tends to be referred to as a 'diagram' |
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Post by Chris M on Nov 29, 2019 12:21:45 GMT
I think it was unoriginally called a "diagram of lines", but in terms of common usage that ship sailed long ago.
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 29, 2019 12:28:24 GMT
As a pedant [pronounced pee-dant rather than ped-ant] who has spend a significant number of years on ships, I note that a diagram showing one how to get from point A to point B is actually defined as a "chart" rather than a "map". A map normally has the characteristic of being a representation of the ground with accurate distances and angles between points marked on it. Thus M'Lud, I would suggest that Harry Beck's Map should more accurately be referred to as Harry Beck's Chart! I think it tends to be referred to as a 'diagram' I agree, as Harry Beck had an electrical background, as do I,I would look upon it as an 'electrical diagram' connecting components(stations) together. Anyway, lets agree to have our own point of view  |
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Post by t697 on Nov 29, 2019 18:57:14 GMT
Or even a 'schematic'.
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Post by Chris L on Nov 29, 2019 20:33:36 GMT
Changed from Diagram of lines to Tube map on the cover in the late 80s.
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Post by superteacher on Nov 30, 2019 11:16:44 GMT
I'm pretty sure it's been called various things over the years.
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Post by spsmiler on Nov 30, 2019 18:37:43 GMT
I've come across a youtube which could be relevant to this thread.
I dislike the use of the word 'lies' as it is not as if there is a deliberate desire to mislead.
Anyway, the map / diagram / chart / whatever is not designed to be geographically accurate - its designed to make it easier to navigate the system. In this respect it seems to work reasonably well, although for a conurbation with as many rail lines as London a degree of complexity is (I suppose) inevitable.
btw, what I would like a little LED lights which illuminate to show the location of and progress of all trains, plus degree of crowdedness. This would make it easier to choose a route for journeys - if several logical choices exist.
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Post by Chris L on Nov 30, 2019 22:13:34 GMT
When I looked after the production of the map in the 1980s I did brief a number of changes to reflect true positions of stations.
These included introducing the bottle shape to move Farringdon and Blackfriars closer together, moving Shoreditch north of Liverpool Street and Euston Square west of Euston.
Life was much simpler then although we did include some British Rail lines where tickets were inter available.
Our research at the time produced an interesting comment - the map is a shorthand for London.
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