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Post by aslefshrugged on Oct 3, 2019 8:03:46 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 3, 2019 10:12:32 GMT
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Post by aslefshrugged on Oct 3, 2019 10:23:36 GMT
I assume there are engineering works at Stratford so they're terminating at Hackney Wick
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Post by dazz285 on Oct 3, 2019 17:00:36 GMT
I assume there are engineering works at Stratford so they're terminating at Hackney Wick Yes |
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Post by bicbasher on Oct 3, 2019 20:51:42 GMT
Nice surprise that the ELL is running all the way down to West Croydon. I thought they might have trialied it between New Cross Gate and H&I, but clearly NR have given them the go ahead to go on NR metals.
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Post by phil on Oct 3, 2019 21:11:02 GMT
Nice surprise that the ELL is running all the way down to West Croydon. I thought they might have trialied it between New Cross Gate and H&I, but clearly NR have given them the go ahead to go on NR metals. NR have an obligation to provide full network access if TOCs request it - Christmas or not. The key signal centres will be maned and although it can be reduced to a skelton crew if nothing is operating, that is contingent on the TOC / engineering requirements and not the other way round. What folk need to understand is that the DfT deliberate exclude Christmas Day and Boxing Day from the franchise obligations and THAT is why you don’t get National Rail services operating on those two days. |
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Post by bicbasher on Oct 3, 2019 23:48:49 GMT
What folk need to understand is that the DfT deliberate exclude Christmas Day and Boxing Day from the franchise obligations and THAT is why you don’t get National Rail services operating on those two days. If you look at those TOCs who operate something on Boxing Day, such as Southern who normally operate some form of a skeleton service on one or two of the Metro lines until around 6pm, is that for commercial reasons or funding from TfL? |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Oct 4, 2019 7:34:13 GMT
What folk need to understand is that the DfT deliberate exclude Christmas Day and Boxing Day from the franchise obligations and THAT is why you don’t get National Rail services operating on those two days. If you look at those TOCs who operate something on Boxing Day, such as Southern who normally operate some form of a skeleton service on one or two of the Metro lines until around 6pm, is that for commercial reasons or funding from TfL? I imagine it is part of their franchise agreement with the DfT as I very much doubt that TfL would be funding non-TfL services with a £0.5bn deficit. |
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Post by phil on Oct 4, 2019 8:21:48 GMT
If you look at those TOCs who operate something on Boxing Day, such as Southern who normally operate some form of a skeleton service on one or two of the Metro lines until around 6pm, is that for commercial reasons or funding from TfL? I imagine it is part of their franchise agreement with the DfT as I very much doubt that TfL would be funding non-TfL services with a £0.5bn deficit. There is nothing to stop TOCs running services outside the franchise terms if they wish - providing it does not cost the DfT anything. All the franchise agreements say is that TOCs are not legally required to run the minimum service specification which applies the rest of the year. As has been noted, in previous years running a limited service on Boxing Day has been part funded by TfL and IIRC a contribution from Gatwick airport. It may be that the revenue generated (and the good PR) is seen by Southern as worthwhile so they are now prepared to bankroll the operations themselves. |
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