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Post by Christopher J on Aug 24, 2005 0:50:58 GMT
Has any LUL rolling stock ever been named after a place/somebody?
To my knowledge I don't believe any have but maybe someone with more knowledge can confirm this?
Maybe LUL should take this up like NR TOCs have with their rolling stock... I can just imagine a D stock entering a platform with a name board displaying 'District Dave' on it. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by q8 on Aug 24, 2005 1:02:50 GMT
Has any LUL rolling stock ever been named after a place/somebody?
To my knowledge I don't believe any have but maybe someone with more knowledge can confirm this?
Maybe LUL should take this up like NR TOCs have with their rolling stock... I can just imagine a D stock entering a platform with a name board displaying 'District Dave' on it. ;D ;D ;D
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Other that the Met Loco's and restaurant cars Chris I don't think any underground stock has ever been named. However having said that the original District did have a named TRAIN in the twenties. It was called "The Harrovian" and was made of of TEN cars which divided at Whitechapel 6 and 4. That is why one of the platforms at Whitechapel is much longer than the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 2:59:18 GMT
According to "Steam to Silver" (LT, 1970, and long out of print), the Metropolitan introduced two Pullman cars in 1910 named "Mayflower" and "Galatea". These were the two contenstant yachts in the 1886 America's Cup, which does little to explain why their names were used on the Met. They were withdrawn in October 1939, when LPTB and WW2 ended First Class travel.
And the Acton-South Acton shuttle was known as "The Tea Run" because the driver (no guard) could put the kettle on at Acton, go to South Acton and be back as the kettle got to the boil....
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Post by Hutch on Aug 24, 2005 6:55:36 GMT
Mention of this book comes up quite a bit on this forum and it was the one (my father's copy) that introduced me to the subject.
I recently bought my own (£5) at the secondhand book shop in Didcot GW Centre. There was another copy there. I also saw a copy in the secondhand book collection (west of mainline) at Quainton Road. Both places well worth a visit - and the book stores too!
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Post by piccadillypilot on Aug 24, 2005 7:22:06 GMT
Pullman cars in 1910 named "Mayflower" and "Galatea". These were the two contenstant yachts in the 1886 America's Cup, which does little to explain why their names were used on the Met. AIUI Pullman cars remained the property of the Pullman Car Co who could obvioulsy name their own vehicles as they saw fit. If one looks at the names applied to Pullman Cars running on other company's lines there appears no connection between the name and the railway or the area served. The names given to those cars forming the Brighton Belle were all girls names - Hazel, Vera, Audrey, Gwen, Doris and Mona. More info on Pullman cars |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 10:13:41 GMT
Mention of this book comes up quite a bit on this forum and it was the one (my father's copy) that introduced me to the subject. I recently bought my own (£5) at the secondhand book shop in Didcot GW Centre. There was another copy there. I also saw a copy in the secondhand book collection (west of mainline) at Quainton Road. Both places well worth a visit - and the book stores too! Now, is £5 a bargain, given that the 1970 price was 90p? |
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Post by Chris M on Aug 24, 2005 11:00:42 GMT
according to a website I found:
90 old pence (£0 7s 6d) in 1970 was worth £3.56 at 2002 prices
90 new pence (£0 18s 0d) in 1970 was worth £8.55 at 2002 prices
90 new pence (£0.90) in 1971 was worth £7.82 at 2002 prices
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 11:11:08 GMT
according to a website I found: 90 old pence (£0 7s 6d) in 1970 was worth £3.56 at 2002 prices 90 new pence (£0 18s 0d) in 1970 was worth £8.55 at 2002 prices 90 new pence (£0.90) in 1971 was worth £7.82 at 2002 prices Well, the price was 90p (not 90d) which is 18/-, and would probably be worth about 10 quid now. So a fiver IS a bargain! |
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Post by trainopd78 on Aug 24, 2005 11:11:20 GMT
As already mentioned (that'll teach me to skim posts ;D), the Met electric locos were named after such people as Sarah Siddons, John Faraday etc. Can't remember the complete list. Wasn't one named Sherlock Holmes?
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Post by Phil on Aug 24, 2005 13:02:19 GMT
As already mentioned (that'll teach me to skim posts ;D), the Met electric locos were named after such people as Sarah Siddons, John Faraday etc. Can't remember the complete list. Wasn't one named Sherlock Holmes? I can provide a complete list if required, as I bet so can PP, q8, etc. but yes, one was good old Sherlock you only have to ask.. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 16:07:35 GMT
I can provide a complete list if required Yes, please.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2005 20:00:30 GMT
I've heard that the 73ts are named Bionics - any particular reason??? Somehting tells me deep inside that grey matter that it was to do with the headlights.
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Post by DWS on Aug 25, 2005 20:41:37 GMT
Has any LUL rolling stock ever been named after a place/somebody? To my knowledge I don't believe any have but maybe someone with more knowledge can confirm this? Maybe LUL should take this up like NR TOCs have with their rolling stock... I can just imagine a D stock entering a platform with a name board displaying 'District Dave' on it. ;D ;D ;D ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Other that the Met Loco's and restaurant cars Chris I don't think any underground stock has ever been named. However having said that the original District did have a named TRAIN in the twenties. It was called "The Harrovian" and was made of of TEN cars which divided at Whitechapel 6 and 4. That is why one of the platforms at Whitechapel is much longer than the rest. Do you know why the train was divided at Whitechapel, did the two parts go to different destinations ? |
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Post by piccadillypilot on Aug 25, 2005 21:19:14 GMT
I've heard that the 73ts are named Bionics 73s were called all sorts of things by the crews and fitters, most of them unrepeatable in polite company. ;D |
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Post by piccadillypilot on Aug 25, 2005 22:22:41 GMT
Yes, please. 1 John Lyon. 2 Oliver Cromwell. 3 Sir Ralph Verney. 4 Lord Byron. 5 John Hampden. 6 William Penn. 7 Edmund Burke. 8 Sherlock Holmes. 9 John Milton. 10 William Ewart Gladstone. 11 George Romney. 12 Sarah Siddons – originally named Nuremburg. 13 Dick Whittington. 14 Benjamin Disraeli. 15 Wembley 1924. 16 Oliver Goldsmith. 17 Florence Nightingale 18 Michael Faraday. 19 John Wyclifle. 20 Sir Christopher Wren. List from "The ABC of London Transport Services" by Barrington Tatford, 1944. |
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Post by towerman on Aug 25, 2005 22:26:02 GMT
The schoma locos are all named after female employees of Transplant.96TS are known to Met staff as Skodas.
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Post by piccadillypilot on Aug 25, 2005 22:29:50 GMT
Other that the Met Loco's and restaurant cars Pssst, Q8. They were Pullman cars, not restaurant cars.  |
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Post by piccadillypilot on Aug 25, 2005 22:33:21 GMT
I can just imagine a D stock entering a platform with a name board displaying 'District Dave' on it. Such is the level of understanding that many would ask, "What's a District Dave?" |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2005 0:16:19 GMT
Re Picc Pilot's list of Met loco names, "Steam to Silver" says that the bronze nameplates were removed during WW2 as part of the drive for scrap metal. This took some time, as extensive renovation was needed when the plates were removed, and the last did not go until 1948.
In 1953, the remaining 15 locos were given complete renovation and the nameplates were refitted. All got their original name back, except No. 10 was abbreviated to "W.E. Gladstone" and No. 2 "Oliver Cromwell" was renamed "Thomas Lord".
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Post by q8 on Aug 26, 2005 5:44:57 GMT
Pssst, Q8. They were Pullman cars, not restaurant cars. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I sit columnosterated!  |
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Post by q8 on Aug 26, 2005 5:46:37 GMT
I can just imagine a D stock entering a platform with a name board displaying 'District Dave' on it.
Such is the level of understanding that many would ask, "What's a District Dave?"
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Post by Phil on Aug 26, 2005 11:29:35 GMT
Bah- beat me to it PP!
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