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Post by danwoodhouse on Aug 13, 2019 20:32:29 GMT
If you asked the average commuter what do they think of the underground now compared to 30 years ago im sure the answers would be positive
The service is more frequent
The trains are much cleaner and faster
More information is at hand
BUT.......we have lost a lot
The only reason why I had any interest in the Underground was that travelling on it 30 years ago was like riding on museum pieces (why bother going to the LTM!) The trains has a look and sound that gave them a personality that said "this is London"
Watch any Undergound nostalgia video on youtube - say 1959 stock on the Northern Line, all the comments will be people saying how they miss the old trains....., but wait, are these the same people who 30 years ago were calling the Northern Line the Misery Line? and campaining for new trains.
I suppose London Underground was never ment to be a working museum. Its always been a system of moving people around London form A-B in the quickest way possible, its just that 30 years ago there was less money available so the system looke like it was a bit behind the time
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Post by superteacher on Aug 13, 2019 20:43:14 GMT
There’s not much money around now!
In the mid 80s I’m pretty sure that the average age of trains on the system was similar to what it is now!
We now have two lines solely worked by trains well over 40 years old. In the mid 80s there were only 4 trains in service (1938 stock on the Northern) which were over 40.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Aug 13, 2019 21:41:17 GMT
There’s not much money around now! In the mid 80s I’m pretty sure that the average age of trains on the system was similar to what it is now! We now have two lines solely worked by trains well over 40 years old. In the mid 80s there were only 4 trains in service (1938 stock on the Northern) which were over 40. Very rough estimate, as fleet sizes vary, but the average age of the stocks on each line was 20 years in 1989 and is now about 21 years. In 2004 it was 27 years, in 1974 it was 14! (disregarding ELL and W&C, as the fleet sizes are very small, and neither was part of LU on both dates. Taken by averaging the nominal ages of the stocks, -1959, 1972, C69 etc, using 2012 as an approximate age for the S stock)
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