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Post by superteacher on Jul 27, 2019 14:34:51 GMT
Bakerloo Line: No service between Paddington and Queen's Park and Severe delays on the rest of the line of the due to a local power failure in the Queen's Park area. Tickets valid on local buses.
Been going on most of the day. Does anybody have any more information?
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Post by pgb on Jul 27, 2019 18:28:02 GMT
Open time trains showing Bakerloo Line trains running
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Post by commuter on Jul 28, 2019 10:22:26 GMT
There was a broken conductor rail on the northbound road just inside the tunnel south of Queen’s Park.
A train in the platform at Queen’s Park had no forward movement and reported this but indications in the power control room said that current was being fed out of the substation.
When tested by the D.R.M there was no power in the current rails in the platform area and further down towards the tunnel, but there was power south of the break, this is due to the non standard power feeding arrangements in this area.
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Post by class411 on Jul 28, 2019 13:09:40 GMT
There was a broken conductor rail on the northbound road just inside the tunnel south of Queen’s Park. A train in the platform at Queen’s Park had no forward movement and reported this but indications in the power control room said that current was being fed out of the substation. When tested by the D.R.M there was no power in the current rails in the platform area and further down towards the tunnel, but there was power south of the break, this is due to the non standard power feeding arrangements in this area. Slang and jargon page ..... Checked All posst in thread ....... Checked What does D.R.M. stand for? (Direct Reading Meter?) |
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Post by will on Jul 28, 2019 13:17:55 GMT
Duty reliability manager isn’t it?
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Post by DWS on Jul 28, 2019 15:08:28 GMT
Duty reliability manager isn’t it? Yes that’s what it is. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 28, 2019 18:10:06 GMT
DRM aka "Blue Light" cos they rush to an emergency or "Action Man" cos they go to wherever the action is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:53:33 GMT
Bakerloo Line: No service between Paddington and Queen's Park and Severe delays on the rest of the line of the due to a local power failure in the Queen's Park area. Tickets valid on local buses.Been going on most of the day. Does anybody have any more information? Broken Positive Conductor Rail on the Northbound between Kilburn Park & Queens Park in the tunnel but closer to Queens Park it was clamped and bonded out to allow the service to resume |
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Post by will on Jul 29, 2019 21:03:05 GMT
Line now suspended as of 21:50 (29/07) due to a power failure - apparently in the Baker Street area
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Post by commuter on Jul 29, 2019 21:43:51 GMT
Line now suspended as of 21:50 (29/07) due to a power failure - apparently in the Baker Street area This is a D.N.O failure affecting everyone in the Baker St area - nothing to do with London Underground. As the Control room for the line is at Baker St this is why the line was suspended at the time of your post. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 29, 2019 22:10:57 GMT
I don't think I've seen the term D.N.O. before on this forum, could anyone help us out with a meaning?
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Post by commuter on Jul 29, 2019 22:25:45 GMT
I don't think I've seen the term D.N.O. before on this forum, could anyone help us out with a meaning? Sorry, it isn’t a railway abbreviation so I was under the impression knowledge of it was quite common, it means Distribution network operator. This is the company that distributes (but doesn’t supply) electricity to homes and businesses. In London and parts of the South/East this is UKPN. I’d have thought most people would have heard of them as you contact them if you want to enquire about a power cut or say want to relocate your electricity meter or incoming power supply to your home. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 29, 2019 22:44:07 GMT
I doubt many people give a second thought to how electricity gets into their house, and if they have a problem they first ring their supplier (the people they pay their bills to). Indeed I was under the impression the whole distribution network for electricity, like gas, was run by Transco, but it seems they only run the National Grid (the high-voltage trunk electricity network). But I'm a bit out of touch - when my late father worked in the industry, it was all CEGB (Central Electricity generating Board, who ran the power stations) and the local distribution companies like Norweb, SWEB, and the LEB (North West Electricity Board, South Eastern Electricity Board, London Electricity Board etc)
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Post by zbang on Jul 30, 2019 2:09:08 GMT
And here I thought DNO was "Do Not Operate".
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Post by stapler on Jul 30, 2019 6:47:04 GMT
I thought DNO stood for"Dunno what the hell caused it" rather like PUO in medicine!
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Post by class411 on Jul 30, 2019 7:51:12 GMT
I don't think I've seen the term D.N.O. before on this forum, could anyone help us out with a meaning? Sorry, it isn’t a railway abbreviation so I was under the impression knowledge of it was quite common, it means Distribution network operator. This is the company that distributes (but doesn’t supply) electricity to homes and businesses. In London and parts of the South/East this is UKPN. I’d have thought most people would have heard of them as you contact them if you want to enquire about a power cut or say want to relocate your electricity meter or incoming power supply to your home. I've never heard that abbreviation, although I know what they are. The gas DNO in our area (SGN {Southern Gas Network}) has the slogan "our pipes, your gas" on all their vans. Which always makes me think: "No, it isn't my gas, because I pay for my gas in arrears". |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 10:10:48 GMT
The joys of losing Lots Road and Greenwich
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Post by John Tuthill on Jul 30, 2019 10:18:47 GMT
The joys of losing Lots Road and Greenwich Great minds think alike. I remember when Lots Road was 'de-commissioned' I thought at the time they will regret it  |
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Post by commuter on Jul 30, 2019 12:00:43 GMT
I doubt many people give a second thought to how electricity gets into their house, and if they have a problem they first ring their supplier (the people they pay their bills to). Indeed I was under the impression the whole distribution network for electricity, like gas, was run by Transco, but it seems they only run the National Grid (the high-voltage trunk electricity network). But I'm a bit out of touch - when my late father worked in the industry, it was all CEGB (Central Electricity generating Board, who ran the power stations) and the local distribution companies like Norweb, SWEB, and the LEB (North West Electricity Board, South Eastern Electricity Board, London Electricity Board etc) Really ? The first thing when I called my supplier recently to query a bill was a recorded message that said they cannot help if you’ve got a power cut, and that you should call your D.N.O on 105. There was a widespread marketing campaign the other year when the 105 telephone number was launched. The D.N.Os are effectively the old electricity boards which were then converted into regional electricity companies and then privatised. |
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Post by commuter on Jul 30, 2019 12:27:16 GMT
The joys of losing Lots Road and Greenwich The joys of losing Lots Road and Greenwich Great minds think alike. I remember when Lots Road was 'de-commissioned' I thought at the time they will regret it I don’t think Lots Road / Greenwich power stations would have made much of a difference. Power feeding arrangements on the Underground are complex and I cannot go into too much detail because of security risks, so I will only go by information that is publicly available on this document (https://rmtlondoncalling.org.uk/files/power_control_cap_strike_july_2014_dracct.docx). Power supplies are generally fed from two sources, D.N.O supplies (local) and L.U supplies. L.U supplies are fed into 6 main bulk supply points (these originate from D.N.O power but come in at much higher voltages and the distribution of this power is controlled internally by London Underground power control). The normal mix is 25% D.N.O (this is the local power that serves homes and businesses in the streets) and 75% L.U power. Some surface stations and other things are 100% D.N.O supplies but can be switched to L.U supply if there’s a D.N.O failure. Lots Rd / Greenwich power stations only fed into what are effectively these bulk supply points so even if they still existed then this issue would still have occurred. The L.U supply was working fine so I suppose the question is why didn’t that take over. |
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Post by DWS on Jul 30, 2019 13:21:25 GMT
The joys of losing Lots Road and Greenwich Greenwich power station is still in operation, I have been on a visit, but we were not allowed to take any pictures. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 15:51:35 GMT
Only as a back up though
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Post by DWS on Jul 30, 2019 16:04:27 GMT
In the winter months it sells electricity to the GRID. |
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Post by countryman on Aug 10, 2019 7:19:20 GMT
I doubt many people give a second thought to how electricity gets into their house, and if they have a problem they first ring their supplier (the people they pay their bills to). Indeed I was under the impression the whole distribution network for electricity, like gas, was run by Transco, but it seems they only run the National Grid (the high-voltage trunk electricity network). But I'm a bit out of touch - when my late father worked in the industry, it was all CEGB (Central Electricity generating Board, who ran the power stations) and the local distribution companies like Norweb, SWEB, and the LEB (North West Electricity Board, South Eastern Electricity Board, London Electricity Board etc) Really ? The first thing when I called my supplier recently to query a bill was a recorded message that said they cannot help if you’ve got a power cut, and that you should call your D.N.O on 105. There was a widespread marketing campaign the other year when the 105 telephone number was launched. The D.N.Os are effectively the old electricity boards which were then converted into regional electricity companies and then privatised. I've never heard of this 105 number. Is it local to London? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 9:50:44 GMT
No it’s national wide if ringing from a landline it knows from the caller ID what local network it is and puts you through.
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Post by bassmike on Aug 10, 2019 14:48:35 GMT
Power supply lines and equipment in east &S E managed by U K Power networks Ipswich.
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 10, 2019 15:14:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 18:47:45 GMT
It even works from mobiles and they ask you for your postcode
why don't you just try it
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