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Post by class411 on Apr 19, 2019 11:46:49 GMT
I was in Morrocco last week
Caught a train to Casablanca going south It was a non smoker
It was hard to tell what speed we were doing at the time, because it was in a very open landscape at the time, but I suspect we were doing at least 100 mph.
I noticed, looking out of the window, that there were quite frequent S and double S bends in the track, and these seemed far sharper than anything I've encountered anywhere else in the world for the speed we were going.
The lateral forces were very noticeable - if you sat up so that your back was not supported you would be pulled quite strongly from side to side.
Would this not cause the track to wear rather rapidly?
Does anyone know of any other countries that run trains at high speed over tightish bends in this way?
I have definitely read that the Central Line suffers accelerate track wear in sections where it has very tight bends because of the historical requirement to follow roads.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 19, 2019 14:03:59 GMT
Maybe it was just your train being driven too quickly?
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Post by class411 on Apr 19, 2019 16:26:14 GMT
Maybe it was just your train being driven too quickly? Unlikely, as the train going north did exactly the same thing. Also neither were ahead of schedule, nor where there any hold ups that needed making up for. No one seemed to think the lateral forces were unusual. It was odd that there was no apparent cant on these track sections. Had people been travelling with duck and pigs and chickens they would have been all over the place.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 19, 2019 16:34:49 GMT
According to Wikipedia the new high speed line from Tangier to Cascablanca opened last November. The section from Tangier to Kenitra is brand new and rated for 200mph, the rest of the way is an upgraded existing line, now good for 100mph. The trains appear to be similar to French TGVs, which don't tilt.
Maybe Morrocans are more tolerant of large sideway forces than we are used to, but as I understand it the limiting factor for speed on curves for passenger trains is passenger comfort rather than track wear - i.e the track can cope with more than the passengers will put up with.
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Post by class411 on Apr 19, 2019 16:47:41 GMT
According to Wikipedia the new high speed line from Tangier to Cascablanca opened last November. The section from Tangier to Kenitra is brand new and rated for 200mph, the rest of the way is an upgraded existing line, now good for 100mph. The trains appear to be similar to French TGVs, which don't tilt. Maybe Morrocans are more tolerant of large sideway forces than we are used to, but as I understand it the limiting factor for speed on curves for passenger trains is passenger comfort rather than track wear - i.e the track can cope with more than the passengers will put up with. I'm sure that's correct as otherwise tilting trains would not be necessary.
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