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Post by movingmillion on Dec 9, 2018 17:13:35 GMT
I am wondering if there were any DEVs in any form taken on the London Underground during the sixties, preferably in the early 60s. Specifically, it would be great if there was a Metropolitan Line one from this time. I am aware that there is a DEV made around 1973 or earlier, but this is a tad too late for what I am looking for. Was there any video like this taken at this time, let alone anywhere on the system?
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Post by roythebus on Dec 10, 2018 7:53:39 GMT
Video wasn't really "invented" in the early 1960s. Well it was, but was extremely expensive, which is why most of the BBC's early Doctor Who series was wiped from video tape of the time. It had to be re-used, and Dr.Who was after all a children's series.  There may well be some hidden cine film from the era, but home cine was usually on 8mm film and a running time of a couple of minutes. |
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Post by brigham on Dec 10, 2018 9:18:28 GMT
Internal 'road-learning' films sometimes turn up. Does anyone know if LT made any?
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 10, 2018 20:26:01 GMT
Internal 'road-learning' films sometimes turn up. Does anyone know if LT made any? There are definitely ones of the SSL around. Northern and Picc as well; they’re really interesting. Not sure about the other lines. There’s at least one road learning training video on YouTube for Merseyrail which taught me loads of things I didn’t know about my first real metro experience. Plus I haven’t been to Southport since I was about fifteen. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 17:17:49 GMT
Quite an old thread, but here goes - There was an early Picc line driving simulator from the late 50s or early 60s that used a colour film shot from the front of a train - the speed of the projection was linked to the controller i think (maybe for 1959/62 stock?) It's about 15 mins long, goes through central London. They have it at the LT Museum, but it's not online - I did find this Circle one you might be interested in though, shot from a CP stock train. www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/film-video/item/2016-1860Things do change over time and this is the wrong forum for making generalisations (but I will do anyway - eek!): the 70s and 80s was a low point for investment in tube stations and infrastructure, so apart from the adverts and fashions the there won't be a lot of difference between these scenes and the late 60s, and the image quality is not that great to see these details anyway. Signage and so on will be older in a lot of stations at the time, there was no overall plan to standardise signage until the 90s. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 24, 2019 17:35:51 GMT
Incorrectly captioned by the LT Museum as “CP Stock 1986”, it’s actually C Stock. |
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Post by Ben on Feb 24, 2019 18:39:57 GMT
Incorrectly captioned by the LT Museum as “CP Stock 1986”, it’s actually C Stock. They are masters of incorrect captions. Last time I looked for something online in their collections, I discovered it had been removed, along with maybe ¾ of the information about related items. Very disappointing. |
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Post by t697 on Feb 24, 2019 19:33:29 GMT
Incorrectly captioned by the LT Museum as “CP Stock 1986”, it’s actually C Stock. Yes much of it hadn't changed much from the 60's to the 80's I think. But one interesting change noticeable is that the C stock is being worked One Person Operation (OPO) and there are OPO mirrors and monitors at the platforms, some of them are for C stock only and there are as yet, none for 'A' Stock where they had different stopping positions, like Great Portland Street (GPS) and Euston Square. Met line must have gone OPO a little after this. Also the T/Op doesn't seem to have stopped at the right position to actually use the OPO monitors at GPS. The freedom of no CSDE 'window' then and presumably, an adequate view down the platform if they opened the cab door and viewed the PTI that way. Cat B platform for a C stock was it? |
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Post by superteacher on Mar 11, 2019 18:26:33 GMT
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Post by metman on Mar 13, 2019 23:15:49 GMT
Can’t remember the dates for opo but was the Hammersmith and City first in 1984? The A stock was around 1986/87?
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Post by superteacher on Mar 14, 2019 17:34:04 GMT
Can’t remember the dates for opo but was the Hammersmith and City first in 1984? The A stock was around 1986/87? Yep. Circle and District in 1985. |
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There may well be some hidden cine film from the era, but home cine was usually on 8mm film and a running time of a couple of minutes. 
