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Post by twihlet on Oct 9, 2018 16:16:06 GMT
Does anyone know if the 2 G stock cars converted to double-ended driving motors for use on the South Acton Shuttle ever had air-operated doors, and if passenger controls were fitted? I understand that the 2 cars were not converted to Q23 standard, but they might have had the doors done as part of the other work they needed.
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Post by ted672 on Oct 9, 2018 19:03:14 GMT
According to the section in "Steam to Silver" by J Graeme Bruce, two 1923 stock cars were converted and the work done "late in 1939 also included the fitting of air-door control but the cars, being intended for one-man operation, had a special interlock circuit which prevented traction control being obtained until the driver had shut himself in the cab." It's not mentioned whether or not the doors were passenger operated.
The two cars were 4167 and 4176, which must have been confusing at times!
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Post by grahamhewett on Oct 9, 2018 19:23:01 GMT
From my memory of riding the shuttle in the last week of operation, the passenger doors were certainly air operated. I was the only passenger on the return trip (the outward trip was also shared with an LT employee and his bicycle), and as an impressionable 10 year old would certainly have remembered being asked to operate the doors... The driver seemed puzzled to have a passenger of any sort.
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Post by twihlet on Oct 10, 2018 8:22:12 GMT
Thanks for both replies. My question re the passenger operation of the doors was prompted by the fact that no photos of the the shuttle show any exterior buttons by the doors for the pax to use, but the car in the LT museum ( Q23, ex Gclass)has them fitted, but painted over. I guess that the driver's controls for the doors must have been fitted on the "party-wall" with the main passenger compartments, as the Q23 stock had them fitted to the end wall thus blanking off the windows, but this would only apply to the guard's compartment. Is it all getting complicated, or is it just me?
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Post by metman on Oct 11, 2018 22:21:05 GMT
I doubt they had passenger door controls. It wouldn’t be worth it as there were only two stations and the turn round times were minimal.
I’m not sure where the driver door controls were. The former guards section was separated by a thin metal sheet partition with an open doorway so unless this was replaced I doubt it was suitable to mount controls. The G stock cabs were very cramped so they might have been placed next to the M (front door) next to the driver on a section there. They could have been placed on the opposite side of the driver as all lamps and destination boards were external?
I don’t have a clue if I’m honest!
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