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Post by waysider on May 26, 2018 9:27:14 GMT
A few pics taken earlier in the week at Walthamstow... Looks like the Council are tidying up the pedestrianised area outside the Exmouth Road/Edinburgh Road entrance... 20180521_175527 by james tuite, on Flickr 172006 just pulling into the Westbound platform. Taken from Shrubland Road bridge looking north... 20180521_175435 by james tuite, on Flickr Looking south from Shrubland Road bridge is this very elaborate steelwork strengthening the cutting - does anyone know the story behind it? 20180521_141915 by james tuite, on Flickr 172007 heading towards Barking. Taken from Yunus Khan Close, a cul-de-sac off of Queens Road (which oddly is a couple of Streets away from the station and could hardly be called a main road - does anyone know why the station was named after it?). Anyway, OHLE all in place and waiting to be switched on 20180521_175643 by james tuite, on Flickr
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Post by snoggle on May 26, 2018 12:54:27 GMT
I don't know the story of that girder mesh but the "logical" answer is that it was put in place to stop the nearby land falling on the railway. I don't know the history but I expect a lot of the housing was added after the railway was shoved through the area and, at some point, the weight bearing down damaged whatever the original sidewall support was. I imagine the piling and cross bracing was added to stop Walthamstow falling on the railway. You can see other places where extra bracing and piling has been added at some point on the stretch from Blackhorse Rd to Queens Road. Must admit that I did not know that Lord Warner (developer of much of Walthamstow) was also behind the construction of the line through Waltham Forest. The line user group has a nice history page which also gives histories of the stations. They are as bemused as you are as to why Queen Rd was chosen as a name! www.barking-gospeloak.org.uk/history.htm
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Post by rincew1nd on May 26, 2018 14:25:06 GMT
Looking south from Shrubland Road bridge is this very elaborate steelwork strengthening the cutting - does anyone know the story behind it? 20180521_141915 by james tuite, on Flickr That structure is odd, not only is it keeping the cutting walls apart but there seems to be some efforts at stopping the walls travelling along the railway. Either that or the designer had a fear the whole structure would go ping somewhen so got carried away adding cross-bracing. One thing is for certain though, Chorley Arches retain the crown for aesthetics! (Pic: Network Rail)
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 26, 2018 14:53:18 GMT
Point of order, Thomas Courtney Warner was a Baronet so he was a Sir not a Lord.You have to be a full Baron and upwards to be a Lord.
I live on the Warner estate and jolly nice properties they ate too.
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Post by Chris M on May 26, 2018 15:50:12 GMT
Regarding the bracing, I wonder if it is/was partly intended to be the base of something rafting over the railway - a ticket office or signal box perhaps?
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Post by snoggle on May 27, 2018 0:40:54 GMT
Point of order, Thomas Courtney Warner was a Baronet so he was a Sir not a Lord.You have to be a full Baron and upwards to be a Lord. I live on the Warner estate and jolly nice properties they ate too. "ate"? The curse of making a typo when making a correction (thanks btw). And I live in a Warner flat too. Far better than one of those modern "bolt it together" rabbit hutches.
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Post by melikepie on May 27, 2018 8:04:49 GMT
Personally I would have trouble digesting bricks.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 19:39:11 GMT
The bracing is indeed to prop the retaining walls apart. There have been historical problems with retaining walls failing in that area. The steel beams used as the primary propping are quite long and so prone to buckling under compression. They are restrained from failure by twisting (torsional buckling) by the beams running parallel to the tracks. However, the whole frame would still be able to buckle by the whole set of props going into a ( or S shape (lateral buckling) so the diagonal beams are added to prevent that.
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Post by Ben on Jun 1, 2018 3:46:48 GMT
rincew1nd - are the Chorley arches the ones which now have the steel underneath them? Its a pity its changed a bit since reconstruction by raising the stone flying arches vertically, but its good that the aesthetic, technical, and historical elements were considered in the reconstruction.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 1, 2018 4:42:31 GMT
rincew1nd - are the Chorley arches the ones which now have the steel underneath them? They are. Originally looking like this: They were removed in 2008 as part of stabilisation works and replaced with simple steelwork (made with some difficulty in Ireland): However the original arches were grade 2 listed and so had to back somewhen. This opportunity arose in 2014 when track lowers and the associated major drainage work was undertaken both under the arches and through the nearby tunnel. The track lowering was necessary to give clearance for electrification, which was promised to be delivered by 2016*. The restored masonry arches were placed directly on top the steel arch, I don't think the masonry is currently load-bearing: IMHO the resorted arches don't look too bad; not conserved in aspic but preserved as part of the operating railway. *Electrification is still pending, some of the mast foundation have recently started to be erected.
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Post by towerman on Jun 1, 2018 13:55:49 GMT
A few pics taken earlier in the week at Walthamstow... Looks like the Council are tidying up the pedestrianised area outside the Exmouth Road/Edinburgh Road entrance... 20180521_175527 by james tuite, on Flickr 172006 just pulling into the Westbound platform. Taken from Shrubland Road bridge looking north... 20180521_175435 by james tuite, on Flickr Looking south from Shrubland Road bridge is this very elaborate steelwork strengthening the cutting - does anyone know the story behind it? 20180521_141915 by james tuite, on Flickr 172007 heading towards Barking. Taken from Yunus Khan Close, a cul-de-sac off of Queens Road (which oddly is a couple of Streets away from the station and could hardly be called a main road - does anyone know why the station was named after it?). Anyway, OHLE all in place and waiting to be switched on 20180521_175643 by james tuite, on Flickr Used to go to school at Edinburgh Road Juniors from 57 to 61,can remember the old station building.Wasn't it mostly wood construction painted cream & green?
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Post by Ben on Jun 2, 2018 7:59:30 GMT
Wasn't aware that had happened over the course of many years instead of in one go. Looks like the steelwork was replaced in 2014 too as the fixings are quite different.
Hopefully in time some grime and algae will make the stones and suspiciously bright pointing blend in a bit better. Pity they couldn't extend the height of the retaining walls in stonework to match the top of the new steel-masonry construct.
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Post by stapler on Jun 15, 2018 13:54:13 GMT
Why was the Walthamstow Midland station renamed "Queen's Rd" in 1968? Good question. It was widely queried at the time. Possible answers: It would have been anathema for the ER to call it Midland ER wanted to close the whole line so they named it after an obscure C Class road nowhere near the entrance hoping to deter users They actively discouraged use of the cinder path to and from Hoe Street ostensibly on the basis of safety crossing a siding, even though Exeter Rd power station was closed by then, so couldn't call it Central Low Level Queens Rd was the nearest railway installation (the goods yard) Yes, it was of timber, but as I first remember it around 54-55, it was painted in maroon and cream, with gas lighting, and LMS roundel running in boards. With a 2P and a rake of maroon coaches on a Southend train, the LMS atmosphere was complete.
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Post by stationless on Jul 13, 2018 23:50:02 GMT
I notice that Queens Rd has a lot of shops along it, and seemingly ore in the past (since converted to houses). It may have been the nearest busy road back in the 60's with chain stores and banks and the like as was common then.
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Post by stapler on Jul 14, 2018 7:23:40 GMT
It was not materially different in the 60s. stationless. Always very secondary. It did contain Tisbury's aquarists' shop, but all the rest was very small beer. No chain stores, I assure you!
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Post by towerman on Jul 14, 2018 22:12:35 GMT
Before everybody had washing machines there was a laundry in Queens Road,Westgates I believe,you wrapped up your dirty laundry in brown paper & dropped it into the shop(with check list attached)then picked it up clean several days later.There was also a Magnet Laundry on the corner of Boundary Road & Hoe Street.
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