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Post by rebeltc130 on Apr 2, 2018 19:20:44 GMT
Seem to recall reading the two bay platforms at High Street Kensington were originally intended to be through platforms as a result of unrealised plans to extend the High Street Kensington branch northwards.
If indeed the case, interested to know more about this story as it is not clear whether the proposed route was to travel alongside the Edgware Road branch (or perhaps even become a separated version of the Edgware Road branch by no longer sharing the same tracks as the Circle Line) or to follow a different route entirely.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 2, 2018 22:17:51 GMT
Seem to recall reading the two bay platforms at High Street Kensington were originally intended to be through platforms as a result of unrealised plans to extend the High Street Kensington branch northwards. It's quite possible - relevant to this is that the line north from HSK, and the east side of the Cromwell Triangle, were built and owned by the Metropolitan Railway. There were no through District services (other than their joint operation of the Circle) until 1926.
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Post by rebeltc130 on Apr 3, 2018 12:46:48 GMT
I see. Have to wonder how the route from High Street Kensington would have been extended beyond Notting Hill Gate to Edgware Road, unless the route was to share the same tracks with the Circle at some point between Notting Hill Gate and Paddington.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 3, 2018 13:58:04 GMT
I don't know if the District ever had any aspirations in that direction - the Met had the area of North Kensington pretty much sewn up as it already owned the H&C.
As originally envisaged, the District was intended to complete the Circle and provide connections from it to the West London Line at both Addison Road (Olympia) and West Brompton. (The Hammersmith extension came later) Hence the double triangular junction centred on Earls Court (High Street, Gloucester Road, Olympia, West Brompton). After the Great Falling Out the District went its own way. The bays at High Street (and the infamous Cromwell Curve) meant that it could keep its trains off Met tracks.
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Post by rebeltc130 on Apr 3, 2018 17:02:02 GMT
Found this video segment that quickly mentions plans to double up the line north of High Street Kensington though unfortunately little else.
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Post by Chris M on Apr 3, 2018 17:16:20 GMT
Geoff Marshall isn't allways the most reliable of sources
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 3, 2018 18:11:14 GMT
Geoff Marshall isn't allways the most reliable of sources Like, elsewhere in that video, asserting that Barbican was a joint Met/MDR station?
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Post by rebeltc130 on Apr 3, 2018 18:48:30 GMT
My bad regarding Geoff Marshall.
It does seem like consideration was given to extending the route northwards.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 3, 2018 18:53:56 GMT
My bad regarding Geoff Marshall. It does seem like consideration was given to extending the route northwards. No problem with posting Geoff’s videos, but like with any source there may be factual innacuracies. That’s why this forum is so great, because you know someone will spot them!
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Post by Ben on Apr 4, 2018 15:10:07 GMT
Perhaps being a pessimist here, but surely the only likely place they could have gone is onto a junction with the MR 'Circle' tracks north of HSK?
One can only speculate as to how useful or not it might have been to LT to have a four through track railway from before South Kensington to after HSK.
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Post by Chris W on Apr 4, 2018 17:12:36 GMT
I seem to remember reading that the reason why stations such as South Kensington were extended to two double tracks, was due to the politics between the District and Metropolitan Railways...
One of our newer members to this parish (Christian Wolmar) wrote The Subterranean Railway which documents very well the petty jealous between the two companies.... with the Metropolitan owning the eastern track and the District the Western, building a new one resulting in the demolition for 30 newish properties in Pelham Street (page 78).
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Post by rebeltc130 on Apr 5, 2018 14:20:27 GMT
Fascinating. My Interest is with regards to any potential extension and separation of the High Street Kensington District branch route (possibility from Wimbledon), though AFIAK it is likely the case the original plan was for the proposed extension to eventually merge with the Circle Line tracks either prior to Notting Hill Gate up to Paddington.
Had the extended route managed to feature separate platforms from the Circle up to roughly around Bayswater, it would have possibly opened up more options on the discussion of separating this District line branch comes up down the road.
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Post by roythebus on Apr 5, 2018 19:08:51 GMT
Remember one of the bay platforms was used by Midland Railway coal trains from Brent that served the extensive coal depot. I was told the platform dead end housed some sort of traverser to get the steam loco from one road to another to run round.
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