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Post by superteacher on Mar 30, 2018 9:17:08 GMT
What work is being done?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 30, 2018 9:32:55 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Mar 30, 2018 9:46:36 GMT
I note on the second closure that trains will be reversing at Hampstead whereas this time it’s Golders Green. Any reason for that? Also, would it not have been possible to reverse Bank branch trains at Euston, or is that too close to Camden in terms of power arrangements?
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Post by goldenarrow on Mar 30, 2018 10:15:29 GMT
Would it not have been possible to reverse Bank branch trains at Euston, or is that too close to Camden in terms of power arrangements? I think you'd get too close on powers as coming into P6 at Euston (SB Bank Branch) would take you right up to the next section (Camden to Euston City S.B), also the connection with the Picc line would probably be needed for a job like this. Mornington Crescent is also in the same section as the work site (Euston CX to/from Camden). |
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Post by Tubeboy on Mar 31, 2018 15:48:54 GMT
Points works at Archway too this weekend.
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Post by goldenarrow on Mar 31, 2018 16:18:09 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Mar 31, 2018 20:40:57 GMT
Odd service pattern with twice as many trains running to Moorgate as Charing Cross. I’m surprised it’s not 6 mins to each. It’s a bit mean to only give a 10 min service to Charing Cross, especially as the trains were quite crowded towards the late afternoon.
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Post by e4u on Mar 31, 2018 21:29:42 GMT
![]()   imgur.com/DCV9JtFAny idea what this is for? It's currently parked outside Camden Town station. <<rincew1nd: image fixed>> |
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Post by John Tuthill on Mar 31, 2018 23:09:08 GMT
![]() imgur.com/DCV9JtFAny idea what this is for? It's currently parked outside Camden Town station. <<rincew1nd: image fixed>> According to 'LTSV.com' it's a mobile office. |
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Post by jamesb on Apr 2, 2018 19:04:14 GMT
I see on the official Northern Line Twitter feed that the works are overrunning and there is likely to be disruption tomorrow.
It seems quite sensible to pre-warn people so that they can make alternative arrangements in advance.
The delay is understandable, given the scale and complexity of the task. I imagine that the concrete needs to set before trains can run over it, the signalling re-connected and tested etc.
I wonder if it was an ambitious plan to get the work completed over a 4 day bank holiday in the first place?
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 2, 2018 19:14:04 GMT
It seems quite sensible to pre-warn people so that they can make alternative arrangements in advance. Yes, because a post-warning is much less useful  |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 2, 2018 19:30:24 GMT
Updated Twitter now only mentions possible disruption to early morning services. Maybe it’s not looking as bad as first feared.
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 2, 2018 20:18:15 GMT
There was (quite rightly) similar cautionary advice issued when the trailing crossover on the Bakerloo line at Paddington was replaced, I think from memory that advice was not needed as the disruption to the start of traffic was not as widespread as initially publicized.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 2, 2018 20:38:34 GMT
I don’t blame them for covering themselves just in case.
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Post by Chris M on Apr 2, 2018 21:33:43 GMT
It seems quite sensible to pre-warn people so that they can make alternative arrangements in advance. Yes, because a post-warning is much less useful There are plenty of times on a Sunday I've heard recorded announcements about engineering work that took place the previous day. I particularly recall this at Debden but it's not the only offender. |
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Post by MoreToJack on Apr 2, 2018 22:30:44 GMT
Certainly on Sunday evening the Northern line job was overrunning by several hours. The Bakerloo work was not overrunning but a contingency was planned and advertised throughout in case it did. For this one it sounds like this is a later contingency and things are indeed overrunning. We will see what happens overnight.
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Post by North End on Apr 2, 2018 23:06:57 GMT
Certainly on Sunday evening the Northern line job was overrunning by several hours. The Bakerloo work was not overrunning but a contingency was planned and advertised throughout in case it did. For this one it sounds like this is a later contingency and things are indeed overrunning. We will see what happens overnight. From what I heard it was several hours behind even on Saturday to the extent that conference calls were starting to happen. |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 3, 2018 7:03:14 GMT
Service was indeed suspended Charing Cross / Euston to Hampstead / East Finchley from start of traffic. Through services resumed around 7.15am with severe delays.
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Post by Tomcakes on Apr 3, 2018 7:48:58 GMT
Looking online it seems all s/b trains ex Barnet are going via the city, and ex Edgware via the West End. Presumably this is an emergency recovery timetable as has been used before.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 3, 2018 8:02:27 GMT
Looking online it seems all s/b trains ex Barnet are going via the city, and ex Edgware via the West End. Presumably this is an emergency recovery timetable as has been used before. Timetable Notice 19/18 in operation today and tomorrow is exactly that. |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 3, 2018 8:08:28 GMT
Looking online it seems all s/b trains ex Barnet are going via the city, and ex Edgware via the West End. Presumably this is an emergency recovery timetable as has been used before. Timetable Notice 19/18 in operation today and tomorrow is exactly that. I’m assuming it’s in place to reduce the number of points movements at Camden whilst the system beds in. EDIT: The updated status message below really highlights the lack of thought that goes into the messages: Northern Line: Minor delays due to a late finish to engineering work at Camden Town. Customers where possible should avoid using the Northern line for their journey this morning.If it’s only minor delays, why should people avoid using the line? |
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Post by memorex on Apr 3, 2018 9:27:49 GMT
Looking online it seems all s/b trains ex Barnet are going via the city, and ex Edgware via the West End. Presumably this is an emergency recovery timetable as has been used before. This was actually planned; the line is running a segregated service (TTN19/18) which was supposed to be the case even without the over-run. |
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Post by Tomcakes on Apr 3, 2018 10:43:28 GMT
Aha, makes sense. This sort of service often occurs after some sort of disruption or during engineering works, so I assume it is well practiced and prepared.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 3, 2018 10:52:27 GMT
Just looked on one of the tube apps and there is a train with destination “Camden Town via CX”. What’s all that about?
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Post by davethewomble on Apr 11, 2018 13:22:16 GMT
Is the yellow hoist attached to the tunnel roof above the points, visible in the twitter images, a permanent feature, or something installed just for these works?
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