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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 22:45:08 GMT
Can someone help me please, I’m a train ops trainiee and I’m really struggling in pm to stop at the stopping mark I have been told use the Tod then no use the stopping mark the no use both been told to coast no used the beginning of the breaking ark and my IO is I think getting frustrated any tips guys oh it not the near side stopping mark that not to bad it the far side
Please help week 7 trainee thanks in advance
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Post by up1989 on Mar 25, 2018 0:39:20 GMT
Can someone help me please, I’m a train ops trainiee and I’m really struggling in pm to stop at the stopping mark I have been told use the Tod then no use the stopping mark the no use both been told to coast no used the beginning of the breaking ark and my IO is I think getting frustrated any tips guys oh it not the near side stopping mark that not to bad it the far side Please help week 7 trainee thanks in advance I found it more useful to only use the tod at the end rely on your eyes for most of your stopping as if your in rm the tod won't help you! I used to find on the 95 stock it was better to stay in minimum brake rather than coast as you could run the risk of overshooting.
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Post by melikepie on Mar 25, 2018 9:14:37 GMT
What is a Tod?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 9:20:10 GMT
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Post by North End on Mar 25, 2018 20:47:42 GMT
Can someone help me please, I’m a train ops trainiee and I’m really struggling in pm to stop at the stopping mark I have been told use the Tod then no use the stopping mark the no use both been told to coast no used the beginning of the breaking ark and my IO is I think getting frustrated any tips guys oh it not the near side stopping mark that not to bad it the far side Please help week 7 trainee thanks in advance The following applies for the Northern or Jubilee - but shouldn't be used as a guide for the Vic. I can only speak from experience, however first of all you need to be aware that different platforms have different brake rates. Typically tunnel platforms have a high brake rate, whilst open air platforms have a low brake rate. Some tunnel platforms also have a low brake rate, or something in between. There's nothing to tell you as a driver what rate applies where, it's merely something that will come with experience - plus things change when new software is dropped. Bearing in mind the above, the objective is then to match the hand coming down as far as possible. When the zero comes up, I normally wait until "over speed imminent" appears on the TOD (accompanied by the warning beeps) then the objective is to select a suitable amount of brake, in an ideal world keeping that one rate of braking for the majority of the stop. In tunnel platforms with high brake rate I will go straight to full service and then take off a bit if necessary. Whilst for platforms with low brake rate select a suitable amount of brake and adjust as necessary. Take brake off if there is an increasing gap between your speed and the hand, but put more on if the speedo is more than 1 or 2 mph into the orange - and if at a high brake rate platform then select full service if into the orange until its back yellow again. In all cases you may need to adjust at about 10 mph when the rheo brake comes off, as on some trains the brakes can die at this point. A second or two before the final stop the handle should be thrown into off and release, then back into then braking sector after stopping - but being careful at places where the platform is on a gradient (again experience comes to play here). It doesn't really matter whether you look at then mark or the TOD, as long as you stop in the green and on 1m or 0m. However, in time one should be erring more towards feel and less towards the speedometer, as the driver should really be focusing more on what's going on outside - especially when on your own with no instructor present. So best to use the speedometer as a guide, but look towards the mark towards the end. I suggest this will come with time and practice and over time you will rely less on the speedo, so in the meantime do what works best for you to build up your feel for the train, and then look to refine later. Over time you may also develop your own trackside markers which can be used as a guide as to when to start braking from full speed. For example at Angel nb there's a convenient Entry Point board which one can use to start braking in full service from - in this case you'd hit the platform at about 37, and keeping it in full service to a stand would stop you about half a car short. At Chalk Farm sb there's a silver box on the tunnel wall which acts as a similar marker. At Elephant and Castle sb the tunnel profile changes shape. At Tooting Broadway nb it's the first bang as the front wheels go over the points. Etc etc etc. All these are markers I use, but people develop their own. Once one starts doing this stopping comes naturally, you're then simply into refining and adjusting depending on whether you're on a good or bad train. Needless to say in the open one has to use a lot more judgement on the day to allow for weather conditions. Just my thoughts...
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Post by croxleyn on Mar 26, 2018 17:35:15 GMT
I joined a group from the IET to visit the Victoria line depot, and use the driving simulator (manual mode, of course!). What surprised me was in order to get optimum stop positioning, the computer expected significant braking on leaving the (curved) tunnel, then needing a little power application before gentle braking to halt.
I can imagine, though, that there are plenty of different profiles (wet, greasy rails etc.) that the instructor could choose...
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 21:52:47 GMT
Can someone help me please, I’m a train ops trainiee and I’m really struggling in pm to stop at the stopping mark I have been told use the Tod then no use the stopping mark the no use both been told to coast no used the beginning of the breaking ark and my IO is I think getting frustrated any tips guys oh it not the near side stopping mark that not to bad it the far side Please help week 7 trainee thanks in advance Thanks for the advice ....I passed out on Monday!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 22:24:08 GMT
You must been ok to have passed
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