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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 4:24:03 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Mar 10, 2018 6:18:14 GMT
Great pics.
For those who may not know, the shaft is located between Mile End and Stratford and can be used as an evacuation route, although I daresay it’s only used as a last resort.
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Post by brigham on Mar 10, 2018 9:16:47 GMT
It surprises me how far down intruders have managed to penetrate.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 10, 2018 13:42:33 GMT
It surprises me how far down intruders have managed to penetrate. I would imagine that the only barriers are at the top and the bottom, so once inside the shaft they can go up or down as far as they like until they reach the other end. |
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Post by superteacher on Mar 10, 2018 14:02:04 GMT
I bet it’s seriously draughty in there!
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 10, 2018 18:55:07 GMT
It surprises me how far down intruders have managed to penetrate. I would imagine that the only barriers are at the top and the bottom, so once inside the shaft they can go up or down as far as they like until they reach the other end.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 21:11:55 GMT
Crikey! I didn't realise, when it said on the Video125 video "access to the surface is provided by means of stairs", he was talking about a ladder!
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Post by superteacher on Mar 10, 2018 21:43:35 GMT
Crikey! I didn't realise, when it said on the Video125 video "access to the surface is provided by means of stairs", he was talking about a ladder! Wouldn’t fancy being evacuated then, no?  |
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Post by hobbayne on Mar 10, 2018 22:48:34 GMT
Crikey! I didn't realise, when it said on the Video125 video "access to the surface is provided by means of stairs", he was talking about a ladder! There is a proper staircase. I have never been up it, but I have seen the video.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 22:53:14 GMT
Crikey! I didn't realise, when it said on the Video125 video "access to the surface is provided by means of stairs", he was talking about a ladder! There is a proper staircase. I have never been up it, but I have seen the video. Well that's a relief! |
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Post by North End on Mar 10, 2018 23:22:05 GMT
Crikey! I didn't realise, when it said on the Video125 video "access to the surface is provided by means of stairs", he was talking about a ladder! It's a little more complex than that. The actual shaft lies beneath the motorway, and as such what is seen on the surface today is not what was there when the Central Line first opened here. Since the motorway arrived there are two separate openings to the surface- one is the evacuation point which is to the west of the motorway, and the other is the fan house which is to the east of the motorway. It is the latter which we see in the pictures. These then converge at basement level into the original shaft. My least favourite shaft is Southampton Street on the Jubilee. I forget the depth but it's amongst the deeper ones on LU, the staircase is lattice metal so you can see beneath your feet, and the handrail is rather low. Not for the faint hearted! |
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Post by revupminster on Mar 10, 2018 23:50:06 GMT
in my day the Mile End station master and inspector had responsibility and the keys for the shaft as they were the nearest LT staff. Stratford was wholly staffed by British Rail. As a District Line Relief Booking clerk I was taken there to be shown the shaft.
A quirk of Stratford was that the rapid printers in the ticket office at Stratford was maintained by LT. technicians.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 0:24:08 GMT
in my day the Mile End station master and inspector had responsibility and the keys for the shaft as they were the nearest LT staff. This is still the case. Regarding the staircase, and without giving away the location for any person who might want to 'access', we couldnt gain entry the easy way becuase it has been blocked off. Or at least... we couldnt get in that way with our massive bunch of keys. Im popping down the other shafts on the Central Line sometime soon, ill make sure I grab some more photos. |
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Post by londonstuff on Mar 11, 2018 14:14:50 GMT
My least favourite shaft is Southampton Street on the Jubilee. I forget the depth but it's amongst the deeper ones on LU, the staircase is lattice metal so you can see beneath your feet, and the handrail is rather low. Not for the faint hearted! Southampton Street - is that right at the end of the old Charing Cross tunnels? It’s not too far off Aldwych. |
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Post by North End on Mar 11, 2018 22:03:28 GMT
My least favourite shaft is Southampton Street on the Jubilee. I forget the depth but it's amongst the deeper ones on LU, the staircase is lattice metal so you can see beneath your feet, and the handrail is rather low. Not for the faint hearted! Southampton Street - is that right at the end of the old Charing Cross tunnels? It’s not too far off Aldwych. It's in the overrun tunnels yes, but not by any means at the far end. At track level it's clear how this was built as an intermediate shaft for a full running tunnel, complete with bell mouths facing the right direction for what would have been each tunnel's intended direction of travel. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 9:12:44 GMT
For as long as I lived in London - I always wanted to be evacuated from a tube tunnel and I’d gladly climb through stairs like these! I mean, I’m sure such an event would be horribly traumatic for most people, but not for a railway enthusiast like myself :-D |
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Post by Alight on Apr 1, 2018 19:03:32 GMT
Does the 7th image down depict the link between the two buildings?
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Post by greggygreggygreg on Apr 1, 2018 20:37:51 GMT
For as long as I lived in London - I always wanted to be evacuated from a tube tunnel and I’d gladly climb through stairs like these! I mean, I’m sure such an event would be horribly traumatic for most people, but not for a railway enthusiast like myself :-D I do remember (probably about 30 years ago) being involved in an emergency evacuation exercise involving use of Old Ford Fan Shaft. It was an interesting experience |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 1, 2018 20:41:59 GMT
For as long as I lived in London - I always wanted to be evacuated from a tube tunnel and I’d gladly climb through stairs like these! I mean, I’m sure such an event would be horribly traumatic for most people, but not for a railway enthusiast like myself :-D Be careful what you wish for! You could be stuck in a stiflingly hot crush loaded tube train without ventilation for ages before you get evacuated. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 21:13:40 GMT
For as long as I lived in London - I always wanted to be evacuated from a tube tunnel and I’d gladly climb through stairs like these! I mean, I’m sure such an event would be horribly traumatic for most people, but not for a railway enthusiast like myself :-D Be careful what you wish for! You could be stuck in a stiflingly hot crush loaded tube train without ventilation for ages before you get evacuated. Adds to the authenticity of the experience    . The tube should be known for being boiling hot as much as it's known for the roundel. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 22:33:04 GMT
For as long as I lived in London - I always wanted to be evacuated from a tube tunnel and I’d gladly climb through stairs like these! I mean, I’m sure such an event would be horribly traumatic for most people, but not for a railway enthusiast like myself :-D Be careful what you wish for! You could be stuck in a stiflingly hot crush loaded tube train without ventilation for ages before you get evacuated. I lived in London for 12 years already and was stuck in super-hot carriages many times... at least there will be some exciting payoff. |
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Post by waysider on Apr 4, 2018 19:14:48 GMT
Southampton Street - is that right at the end of the old Charing Cross tunnels? It’s not too far off Aldwych. It's in the overrun tunnels yes, but not by any means at the far end. At track level it's clear how this was built as an intermediate shaft for a full running tunnel, complete with bell mouths facing the right direction for what would have been each tunnel's intended direction of travel. I had no idea there was a shaft on Southampton Street ...where exactly on the surface does it appear? |
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Post by jetblast787 on Apr 4, 2018 20:43:41 GMT
It's in the overrun tunnels yes, but not by any means at the far end. At track level it's clear how this was built as an intermediate shaft for a full running tunnel, complete with bell mouths facing the right direction for what would have been each tunnel's intended direction of travel. I had no idea there was a shaft on Southampton Street ...where exactly on the surface does it appear? It's actually clearly visible on google maps. Straight opposite to Mountain Warehouse. I remember doing some feasibility work on installing a hoist to take material down, but it wasn't very suitable both in construction and location. |
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Post by londonstuff on Apr 4, 2018 22:00:47 GMT
I had no idea there was a shaft on Southampton Street ...where exactly on the surface does it appear? It's actually clearly visible on google maps. Straight opposite to Mountain Warehouse. I remember doing some feasibility work on installing a hoist to take material down, but it wasn't very suitable both in construction and location. I just went onto Google Maps and it diverted me into a Where’s Wally mini game that was quite entertaining for ten minutes. Honestly, I found him easier than the shaft opposite Mountain Warehouse, which has totally flummoxed me. 😂 |
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Post by North End on Apr 4, 2018 22:32:27 GMT
It's actually clearly visible on google maps. Straight opposite to Mountain Warehouse. I remember doing some feasibility work on installing a hoist to take material down, but it wasn't very suitable both in construction and location. I just went onto Google Maps and it diverted me into a Where’s Wally mini game that was quite entertaining for ten minutes. Honestly, I found him easier than the shaft opposite Mountain Warehouse, which has totally flummoxed me. 😂 It’s behind 33 Southampton Street, which itself is owned by LT. This is on the west side of Southampton Street, about halfway up. If you want a real challenge, try and find the next Fleet Line shaft to the east. As a clue, it’s between Aldwych and Ludgate Hill... |
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Post by djlynch on Apr 6, 2018 1:17:24 GMT
If you want a real challenge, try and find the next Fleet Line shaft to the east. As a clue, it’s between Aldwych and Ludgate Hill... The Property Asset Register shows that TfL acquired space for some kind of connection between the running tunnels at Bouverie Lane, so I'll guess there. |
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Post by North End on Apr 6, 2018 4:36:35 GMT
If you want a real challenge, try and find the next Fleet Line shaft to the east. As a clue, it’s between Aldwych and Ludgate Hill... The Property Asset Register shows that TfL acquired space for some kind of connection between the running tunnels at Bouverie Lane, so I'll guess there. Yes, Bouverie Street / Temple Lane. It appears the shaft and track-level heading were in fact built, and there’s some evidence left on the surface too. |
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