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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 12:51:04 GMT
Was at Piccadilly Circus today, they have replaced the Metronet announcements with the tubelines Ellinor Hamilton ones, such as Bakerloo Line the next train to Waterloo will arrive in 2 mins, no next station bit though like the Northern Line ane and Jubilee lines have and Picc lines from Caliodian Road to Cockfosters.
The Piccadilly Line ones from Russell Square to Hyde Park Corner bar Piccadilly Circus are faulty, the DMIs show trains 10 mins away then jump to two mins, with the annoucments not saying for example next station Green Park. And when the train is already in the platform it will say piccadilly line train now approaching to Rayners Lane please stand back from the platform edge etc
What is artist of the Metronet ones like mostly on the Central Line like at White City?
Do any Metroplolitan lines have this or Waterloo and City line?
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 19, 2017 16:46:51 GMT
Was at Piccadilly Circus today, they have replaced the Metronet announcements with the tubelines Ellinor Hamilton ones, such as, "Bakerloo Line the next train to Waterloo will arrive in 2 mins", no next station bit though like the Northern and Jubilee lines have and the Picc line from Caledonian Road to Cockfosters.
@tom1993 , by Metronet ones I'm guessing you mean ones heard in the video below. On the Northern line it's understandable to have the next station included with the various branches and for the sake of uniformity (or lack willingness) this is has become the standard for the whole line regardless of location/direction of travel. Nonetheless having the next station as part of the announcement would be a helpful reassurance to those whom are not familiar with using the network.
You may need to turn up the volume to hear the announcement. Video by Luftschlange
The Control Room at Earls Court in currently in a period of transition as the District line is gearing up for Automatic Train Operation (ATO) as part of the Four Lines Modernisation (4LM) that will see the District move out from it's shared complex with the Picc to a dedicated control room with the rest of the Sub-surface lines (SLL's). The Piccadilly line is getting a new signal control system that has been installed from Cockfosters to Earls Court with works starting on infrastructure to roll this out on the western ends of the line. Whilst this is taking place it is inevitable that the data feeds on platforms get a bit confused as the cessation of old systems and software giving way to their replacements can vary station by station.
Preston Road has the "Metronet" style announcements, Farringdon has announcements by Elinor Hamilton in a slightly different format due to the service variation of the Met. The Uxbridge Branch is mute when it comes to next train announcements, up until recently the Mets (and SSL if looking further back) provision of real time next train information has been limited at best due to fragmented investment and large swathes of the SSL's being controlled by de-centralised signal cabins. It would not be surprising if Farringdon and Preston Road were one of the only stations on the line to have automated next train announcements.
When ever I've used the Waterloo & City, the only announcement at Waterloo is, "Mind the Gap Please" with the DMI displaying a fixed message, "Waterloo & City Line (next line) All trains go to Bank". At Waterloo I also think it was a fixed message detailing the next train to depart, with trains being double ended during the peaks I guess there isn't really a need for it here. However, "The next train to Waterloo will depart from Platform (x) in 5mins" would still be useful in off-peaks periods perhaps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 21:18:30 GMT
Was at Piccadilly Circus today, they have replaced the Metronet announcements with the tubelines Ellinor Hamilton ones, such as, "Bakerloo Line the next train to Waterloo will arrive in 2 mins", no next station bit though like the Northern and Jubilee lines have and the Picc line from Caledonian Road to Cockfosters.
@tom1993 , by Metronet ones I'm guessing you mean ones heard in the video below. On the Northern line it's understandable to have the next station included with the various branches and for the sake of uniformity (or lack willingness) this is has become the standard for the whole line regardless of location/direction of travel. Nonetheless having the next station as part of the announcement would be a helpful reassurance to those whom are not familiar with using the network.
You may need to turn up the volume to hear the announcement. Video by Luftschlange
The Control Room at Earls Court in currently in a period of transition as the District line is gearing up for Automatic Train Operation (ATO) as part of the Four Lines Modernisation (4LM) that will see the District move out from it's shared complex with the Picc to a dedicated control room with the rest of the Sub-surface lines (SLL's). The Piccadilly line is getting a new signal control system that has been installed from Ccokfosters to Earls Court with works starting on infrastructure to roll this out on the western ends of the line. Whilst this is taking place it is inevitable that the data feeds on platforms get a bit confused as the cessation of old systems and software giving way to their replacements can vary station by station.
Preston Road has the "Metronet" style announcements, Farringdon has announcements by Elinor Hamilton in a slightly different format due to the service variation of the Met. The Uxbridge Branch is mute when it comes to next train announcements, up until recently the Mets (and SSL if looking further back) provision of real time next train information has been limited at best due to fragmented investment and large swathes of the SSL's being controlled by de-centralised signal cabins. It would not be surprising if Farringdon and Preston Road were one of the only stations on the line to have automated next train announcements.
When ever I've used the Waterloo & City, the only announcement at Waterloo is, "Mind the Gap Please" with the DMI displaying a fixed message, "Waterloo & City Line (next line) All trains go to Bank". At Waterloo I also think it was a fixed message detailing the next train to depart, with trains being double ended during the peaks I guess there isn't really a need for it here. However, "The next train to Waterloo will depart from Platform (x) in 5mins" would still be useful in off-peaks periods perhaps.
Metronet ones are like on the Central Line like at White City, any idea what voice is who the voice is which is being phased our.
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 20, 2017 15:59:40 GMT
Metronet ones are like on the Central Line like at White City, any idea what voice is who the voice is which is being phased our. Can't find any concrete evidence on this specific type of announcement although something tells me it might be Emma Clarke as she is the voice of Central and Bakerloo line on train announcements so it would be understandable for recordings to be made for platform announcements at stations on those lines too. Personally I prefer Elinor Hamilton's announcements as they tend (exceptions of course) to be more concise. That said Westminster (SSL) definitely breaks this rule, yesterday I heard, "Platform 1, the train now approaching is a Circle line service via High Street Kensington, please stand back from the platform edge, use the full length of the platform, let customers off the train before boarding and move right down inside the cars using all available doors.", to add to the deluge of information a District line service to Ealing Broadway showed up, but thats a story for another thread. I believe the station older announcements from the era of Metronet announcements are being phased out partly because of clarity issues regarding how easily these announcements can be muffled out even at quieter locations such as Preston Road, partly due to limited scope OF recordings made at the time which only cover a handful of lines. Elinor Hamilton's recordings cover greater a number of stations, lines and other safety messages including service updates and disruptions reasons making the PA system more flexible and not requiring as much input from station staff. Then there is the wording of the announcements themselves, the "Metronet" announcements stand out due to the repeated or sometimes excessive use of words and phrases such as , "Ladies and Gentlemen" and "Calling all station to..." on lines that have no station skipping.
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Post by MoreToJack on Oct 20, 2017 16:32:10 GMT
Metronet ones are like on the Central Line like at White City, any idea what voice is who the voice is which is being phased our. Can't find any concrete evidence on this specific type of announcement although something tells me it might be Emma Clarke as she is the voice of Central and Bakerloo line on train announcements so it would be understandable for recordings to be made for platform announcements at stations on those lines too. Personally I prefer Elinor Hamilton's announcements as they tend (exceptions of course) to be more concise. That said Westminster (SSL) definitely breaks this rule, yesterday I heard, "Platform 1, the train now approaching is a Circle line service via High Street Kensington, please stand back from the platform edge, use the full length of the platform, let customers off the train before boarding and move right down inside the cars using all available doors.", to add to the deluge of information a District line service to Ealing Broadway showed up, but thats a story for another thread. I believe the station older announcements from the era of Metronet announcements are being phased out partly because of clarity issues regarding how easily these announcements can be muffled out even at quieter locations such as Preston Road, partly due to limited scope OF recordings made at the time which only cover a handful of lines. Elinor Hamilton's recordings cover greater a number of stations, lines and other safety messages including service updates and disruptions reasons making the PA system more flexible and not requiring as much input from station staff. Then there is the wording of the announcements themselves, the "Metronet" announcements stand out due to the repeated or sometimes excessive use of words and phrases such as , "Ladies and Gentlemen" and "Calling all station to..." on lines that have no station skipping. In the case of the former phrase, it's been decided to be phased out entirely in a bid to make the network more inclusive for all who use it. We're not going to be re-opening this debate as things started to get out of hand before.
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