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Post by stafford on Oct 16, 2017 18:05:00 GMT
Has this short bit of tunnel been backfilled or not?
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 16, 2017 19:37:48 GMT
stafford , I believe the tunnel is still in situ albeit trackless nestled under the former Eurostar complex currently in the throngs of being redeveloped. The ex-junction was situated around 100-150 yards from the NB Platform and was just visible from Video 125's Bakerloo & City DVD in 2007. Previous thread discussed some of the above points. districtdavesforum.co.uk/post/334823/thread
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Post by drainrat on Oct 17, 2017 10:57:30 GMT
Still there, if you get chance to travel on line, get on at front of train at Waterloo departure platform and keep looking left as train leaves, you'll get a glimpse for couple seconds
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Post by drainrat on Oct 21, 2017 5:34:35 GMT
Used for storage now
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Post by Tom on Oct 21, 2017 21:34:16 GMT
I walked along it about 10 years ago - it was mostly filled with P/Way spares.
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Post by roythebus on Oct 24, 2017 18:47:44 GMT
It costs a lot to infill tunnels and serves no useful purpose. They are usually useful in the future for storage, cable runs and the like.
In sarf London, a lot of the LCC tramway cable runs under the pavements were used for installing cable TV cables in the 1980s. If you look carefully at manhole covers in the Streatham area, a lot are marked LLC Tramways. Sorry to go off-topic a bit.
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Post by westville13 on Oct 24, 2017 19:19:14 GMT
I was told that when the GLC's Historic Buildings Division was moved out of County Hall to a building off Regent Street the links back to the County Hall computer mainframe were taken through old LCC tramway cable runs. (Also off topic - apologies to the mods).
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Post by Chris M on Oct 24, 2017 19:59:05 GMT
In sarf London, a lot of the LCC tramway cable runs under the pavements were used for installing cable TV cables in the 1980s. If you look carefully at manhole covers in the Streatham area, a lot are marked LLC Tramways. Sorry to go off-topic a bit. I saw a "Post Office Telegraph" manhole cover when I was walking between Boston Manor and Osterley a week or so back. |
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Post by John Tuthill on Oct 24, 2017 20:29:55 GMT
It costs a lot to infill tunnels and serves no useful purpose. They are usually useful in the future for storage, cable runs and the like. In sarf London, a lot of the LCC tramway cable runs under the pavements were used for installing cable TV cables in the 1980s. If you look carefully at manhole covers in the Streatham area, a lot are marked LLC Tramways. Sorry to go off-topic a bit. Not forgetting that when the London Hydraulic Power Company closed in the 70's, C&W bought the company purely for the pipework under London. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 23:43:04 GMT
It took me at least and hour to move one of our gauges down there. In a big box that weighed in exess of 25kg. Last I heard they wanted to fill it in, becuase I was asked to move the gauge out again! Hasnt happened as of yet, its still used for storage but I believe an extensive survey is being conducted / has been conducted in the past couple of months to assess what they can do with it.
Watch this space.
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Post by zbang on Mar 3, 2018 3:34:01 GMT
Curious... does Armstrong refer to the location, a person, or that it was operated by strong arms (in the vein of interlocking lever frames that are entirely human powered).
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Post by 35b on Mar 3, 2018 6:48:39 GMT
Curious... does Armstrong refer to the location, a person, or that it was operated by strong arms (in the vein of interlocking lever frames that are entirely human powered). Assume it was the company that built it. |
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Post by brigham on Mar 3, 2018 8:24:59 GMT
Sir W.G. Armstrong, Whitworth & Co, presumably.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 3, 2018 8:37:55 GMT
Curious... does Armstrong refer to the location, a person, or that it was operated by strong arms Assume it was the company that built it. William Armstrong, the inventor of the hydraulic accumulator, and founder of the famous heavy engineering company (later Armstrong-Whitworth, later still Vickers-Armstrong) built many specialised lifting equipment, notably the moving parts of Tower Bridge. |
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Post by roythebus on Mar 13, 2018 22:21:34 GMT
It was also an arm strong lift. the W&C cars had to be manhandled on at the top and bottom of the shaft and couplers had to be removed at each end of each car to fit in the Armstrong lift, which was hydraulically worked. Somewhere on the net is a picture of an M7 steam loco which went down the lift shaft. The lift was at the bottom at the time. The photo is excellent if you want to super-detail your Hornby M7 chassis.  |
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Post by phil on Mar 13, 2018 23:43:12 GMT
It was also an arm strong lift. the W&C cars had to be manhandled on at the top and bottom of the shaft and couplers had to be removed at each end of each car to fit in the Armstrong lift, which was hydraulically worked. Somewhere on the net is a picture of an M7 steam loco which went down the lift shaft. The lift was at the bottom at the time. The photo is excellent if you want to super-detail your Hornby M7 chassis. Actually the lift was on the surface and the M7 loco started to venture onto it - but for whatever reason the lift started to descend (not locked in place maybe). The crew jumped clear and the lift ended up at the bottom with a mangled M7 on top of it (which had to be cut up for scrap on site as there was no easy way of removing it). |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 13, 2018 23:53:09 GMT
Somewhere on the net is a picture of an M7 steam loco which went down the lift shaft. The lift was at the bottom at the time. The loco was shunting coal wagons on to the lift platform (which was at the top) so that they could be taken below to the W&C's power station (even in 1948 the W&C still used its own power supply, rather than using a feed from the later electrification scheme upstairs). The platform hadn't been locked in place and tilted, allowing the first wagon to fall and dragging the other wagons, and the loco, after it. |
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