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Post by spsmiler on Sept 20, 2017 21:09:53 GMT
I ask because I have variously seen it called the Metropolitan Heritage Train, the London Underground Heritage Train and the London Transport Museum Heritage Train. So, is any of them correct? Or does it not matter as its name will always vary according to the event being publicised? Simon ps: edit to add a few photos plus text from my website  Both views: at platform 2 Harrow On The Hill  The window side of the compartments. Although reflections partly compromise the view it is possible to peer through the compartment on the left and see someone walking along the side corridor. A coffee cup can be seen on the small window ledge table of the compartment on the right. The open door on the left edge is for the guards area, next to it is a closed passenger door that has bars over the drop-down window. These are there to prevent passengers from sticking their heads out the window whilst the train is in motion. The light between the two compartments was added during a 2017 upgrade and repaint. It illuminates when the passenger doors are unlocked. |
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Post by brigham on Sept 21, 2017 7:31:10 GMT
From my understanding, the London Transport Museum Heritage Train is the most precise, on the grounds that no portion of it ever served on the Met., or on London Transport.
Unless someone knows otherwise, that is.
I wish I could master Photoshop, or something similar. 'London Transport Museum' might look good.
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Post by countryman on Sept 21, 2017 8:18:25 GMT
I missed this set at Swanage. My undestanding was that it is painted in London Transport red. However, the picures look to me that it is very similar to the maroon that Mk1 stock was painted before the blue and grey livery.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 21, 2017 9:28:30 GMT
The 4TCs were never painted maroon in BR days - the only multiple unit stock so adorned were the class 309 Clacton units. All other multiple units in the BR era were originally green, switching to blue in the late 1960s (the VEPs and REP/TC units for the Bournemouth electrification being the first to be delivered new in those colours) with blue/grey later applied to multiple units with end gangways (from about 1970), and later (from about 1980) to all multiple units.
However, the 4TCs were converted from hauled stock. Most of them came from the Southern Region, and would have originally been painted green, but some came from other regions. The first class corridor coach in the preserved set started out on the LMR, and would therefore originally have been maroon.
Difficult to be sure as colour sensitivity of the camera, and ambient lighting, can vary, but the colour of that TC looks a shade pinker than BR maroon. Are there any photos of the set alongside a genuine BR maroon and/or LT red vehicle?
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 21, 2017 9:38:07 GMT
The 4TCs were never painted maroon in BR days - the only multiple unit stock so adorned were the class 309 Clacton units. All other multiple units in the BR era were originally green, switching to blue in the late 1960s (the VEPs and REP/TC units for the Bournemouth electrification being the first to be delivered new in those colours) with blue/grey later applied to multiple units with end gangways (from about 1970), and later (from about 1980) to all multiple units. Difficult to be sure as colour sensitivity of the camera, and ambient lighting, can vary, but the colour of that TC looks a shade pinker than BR maroon. Are there any photos of the set alongside a genuine BR maroon and/or LT red vehicle? If anyone knows the paint codes, that should answer your querie  I remember seeing photos of the Shepperton branch being used as a 'siding' for the new stock before the Victoria/Margate/Broadstairs/Ramsgate was fully electrified. |
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Post by brigham on Sept 21, 2017 11:17:45 GMT
The gold/black/gold lining is typically BR,surely?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 21, 2017 11:30:06 GMT
I remember seeing photos of the Shepperton branch being used as a 'siding' for the new stock before the Victoria/Margate/Broadstairs/Ramsgate was fully electrified. I wasn't aware of the Shepperton branch being used for that purpose, but the Ardingly to Horsted Keynes line was singled in 1958, and the redundant track used to hold both old and new stock during the Kent Coast changeover. The line closed in 1963 |
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Post by cso on Sept 21, 2017 12:13:14 GMT
I thought this was referred to as the Chesham Set or is that something else?
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Post by tjw on Sept 21, 2017 14:42:09 GMT
I thought this was referred to as the Chesham Set or is that something else? The Chesham set refers to 6 carriages of the Metropolitan Railway, Ashbury stock of 1898-1900, that was latterly used on the Chesham branch until around 1960. 4 of these carriages have been used and restored by the Bluebell Railway, the 5th carriage is in the LT museum and the 6th was scrapped c. 1960. The Bluebell Railway has lent these carriages to LT a number of times, and they have been used on recent Steam on the Met. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 21, 2017 14:50:46 GMT
I thought this was referred to as the Chesham Set or is that something else? Something very different, although it too underwent conversion from hauled stock to e.m.u. It is a set of four Metropolitan Railway carriages built in 1898 and 1900. Two of them were converted to e.m.u driving cars (in 1908 and 1921 respectively), and converted back in 1940 for push-pull operation on the Chesham branch (hence the name), where they remained until electrification in 1960. Normally resident on the Bluebell Railway, they have been used for some "Steam On The Met" events. A fifth "Chesham Shuttle" carriage is at the LTM.  |
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Post by cso on Sept 21, 2017 16:30:47 GMT
Ah, you learn something new every day... I did wonder why they'd have done that paint job to the Chesham Set!
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Post by roythebus on Sept 29, 2017 18:41:11 GMT
The 4-wheel coach on the back of that set is currently on long-term loan to the Kent & East Sussex Railway and is in regular service on their Victorian train.
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Post by goldenarrow on Sept 29, 2017 22:09:21 GMT
The 4-wheel coach on the back of that set is currently on long-term loan to the Kent & East Sussex Railway and is in regular service on their Victorian train. Otherwise known as Met 'Jubilee' No.353 having been first rolled out in 1887 the year of Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee. |
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