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Post by programmes1 on Aug 26, 2017 6:15:54 GMT
Hoping someone can help, I'm after the lengths of the roads in the depot, I understand that some of the roads have names that they are known by. TIA
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 26, 2017 6:48:31 GMT
All roads can now only accommodate one S7 train, the only named roads are:
- 'Whiteley's siding' , runs parallel to exit road towards Olympia
- 'electric road' , between main siding and outlet to West Kensington
- 'steam road' , alternative route main sidings and outlet to West Kensington
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Post by programmes1 on Aug 26, 2017 8:58:17 GMT
All roads can now only accommodate one S7 train, the only named roads are: - 'Whiteley's siding' , runs parallel to exit road towards Olympia - 'electric road' , between main siding and outlet to West Kensington - 'steam road' , alternative route main sidings and outlet to West Kensington Dstock7080, Many thanks. |
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 11, 2020 10:50:59 GMT
This may need to be moved as it might be historical now.
Lillie Bridge depot how has the working changed since passenger trains start/stable there. Are the signals still the same and do they still use the plungers and train number switches I don’t think the layout has changed but I might be wrong.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 11, 2020 12:52:53 GMT
This may need to be moved as it might be historical now. Lillie Bridge depot how has the working changed since passenger trains start/stable there. Are the signals still the same and do they still use the plungers and train number switches I don’t think the layout has changed but I might be wrong. TIA when stabling of passenger trains commenced:  plungers are not used by passenger trains. after: - Roads 1 and 10 had been shortened to accommodate one train only - Roads 4, 5, 6, 11 and 12 electrified - electrified Road 13 added - Whiteley's siding electrified - rationalisation of 11, 12 and east fan removed - all points (except at outlet WB18 WB19 now electrically operated, (at present by shunting staff using buttons beside points) for CBTC use.  |
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Post by DWS on Oct 11, 2020 14:33:18 GMT
Question, when was the steam road electrified. Are engineering trains able to use the depot ?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 11, 2020 16:53:12 GMT
Question, when was the steam road electrified. Are engineering trains able to use the depot ? One of the small profile Schweerbau Rail Grinder is currently stabled on Whiteley's siding. Since the later reconfiguration, i've not seen any other engineering trains use the sidings, although the Track points & crossings workshop is there. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 20:51:17 GMT
This may need to be moved as it might be historical now. Lillie Bridge depot how has the working changed since passenger trains start/stable there. Are the signals still the same and do they still use the plungers and train number switches I don’t think the layout has changed but I might be wrong. TIA Train number selectors are no longer used, but are still there The shunter has full control of the plungers and a new virtual programme machine for the area S3. The signalling hasn’t changed at all apart from the hand worked points as mentioned already are now surelocks all ready for CBTC. The signallar at Earls Court has no control of the route in and out of Whitely Sidings all controlled from plungers |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 20:53:27 GMT
Question, when was the steam road electrified. Are engineering trains able to use the depot ? One of the small profile Schweerbau Rail Grinder is currently stabled on Whiteley's siding. Since the later reconfiguration, i've not seen any other engineering trains use the sidings, although the Track points & crossings workshop is there. The vast majority of all crossings go via road to Ruislip where they are loaded onto the engineering trains. |
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Post by jimbo on Oct 11, 2020 23:38:19 GMT
Amazing that, according to Wikipedia, this depot dates back to 1871, and was used by District until electrification when they moved out to Ealing in 1905. It was then used by the new Picc line from opening until 1932, being close to their Hammersmith terminus, until extensions in 1932 when they moved out to Northfields. After that it was confined to engineering services until 2014? when District moved back in, a useful in-town stabling area. So 109 year gap for District trains, and 82 years for any operating services!
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 12, 2020 6:10:37 GMT
This may need to be moved as it might be historical now. Lillie Bridge depot how has the working changed since passenger trains start/stable there. Are the signals still the same and do they still use the plungers and train number switches I don’t think the layout has changed but I might be wrong. TIA when stabling of passenger trains commenced: plungers are not used by passenger trains. after: - Roads 1 and 10 had been shortened to accommodate one train only - Roads 4, 5, 6, 11 and 12 electrified - electrified Road 13 added - Whiteley's siding electrified - rationalisation of 11, 12 and east fan removed - all points (except at outlet WB18 WB19 now electrically operated, (at present by shunting staff using buttons beside points) for CBTC use. Dstock7080 Thanks |
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 12, 2020 6:14:05 GMT
This may need to be moved as it might be historical now. Lillie Bridge depot how has the working changed since passenger trains start/stable there. Are the signals still the same and do they still use the plungers and train number switches I don’t think the layout has changed but I might be wrong. TIA Train number selectors are no longer used, but are still there The shunter has full control of the plungers and a new virtual programme machine for the area S3. The signalling hasn’t changed at all apart from the hand worked points as mentioned already are now surelocks all ready for CBTC. The signallar at Earls Court has no control of the route in and out of Whitely Sidings all controlled from plungers DistrictSOM thanks. Foes that mean when the CBTC comes in the depot will be like Hammersmith sidings? |
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Post by brigham on Oct 12, 2020 8:01:46 GMT
I wonder how many 'homes' the builders could get onto this site, given the right 'backhanders'?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 12, 2020 8:25:24 GMT
Does that mean when the CBTC comes in the depot will be like Hammersmith sidings? Hammersmith, Barking, Lillie Bridge (possibly Parsons Green if ever commissioned beyond Fulham Bdwy!) will all operate the same. I wonder how many 'homes' the builders could get onto this site, given the right 'backhanders'? No sure how many were proposed but the project has stalled and land occupied by Earl’s Court 2 is still vacant |
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Post by zbang on Oct 27, 2020 4:13:43 GMT
All roads can now only accommodate one S7 train, the only named roads are: - 'Whiteley's siding' , runs parallel to exit road towards Olympia - 'electric road' , between main siding and outlet to West Kensington - 'steam road' , alternative route main sidings and outlet to West Kensington
(coming to this late) Why those particular names? How common is/was it to name roads/sidings at all (in the TfL realm)
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 27, 2020 5:43:41 GMT
(coming to this late) Why those particular names? How common is/was it to name roads/sidings at all (in the TfL realm) Whiteley’s siding - because runs alongside the former Whiteley’s depository. I personally don’t know why steam and electric! Ealing Common depot have the “Alps” sidings Neasden depot has the “Klondike” sidings Northfields depot has “The Pictures” sidings - being the roads behind the former cinema. Earl’s Court reversing road is known as “The Yard” presumably as previously only single ended siding. |
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 27, 2020 11:34:52 GMT
(coming to this late) Why those particular names? How common is/was it to name roads/sidings at all (in the TfL realm) Whiteley’s siding - because runs alongside the former Whiteley’s depository. I personally don’t know why steam and electric! Ealing Common depot have the “Alps” sidings Neasden depot has the “Klondike” sidings Northfields depot has “The Pictures” sidings - being the roads behind the former cinema. Earl’s Court reversing road is known as “The Yard” presumably as previously only single ended siding. Was the steam road unelectrified as I think it was mentioned in a 3 part article in LRR (London Railway Record) but I don't have the issues anymore so I can't confirm. |
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