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Post by snoggle on Jul 12, 2017 13:46:18 GMT
Does anyone know what the likely availability of TfL staff passes is going to be on Crossrail? (Potentially going to save me lots of money!) Short answer = no Longer entirely speculative answer = we already know they're valid to Shenfield (TfL Rail) and there can be no great issue about them working to Abbey Wood and to West Drayton going west. The question marks, in my mind at least, are validity into Heathrow and how far west a pass would be valid. I suspect the end result will be they are valid across Crossrail but limited to use of Crossrail services only. I suspect there will be an "interrogation" at Reading to get in and out of the station but that's no different to what happens at Peckham Rye, part of Woolwich Arsenal or New Cross today. I'm not certain about who will operate what stations west of West Drayton - whether they move to the Crossrail TOC or if some remain with GWR because of connecting shuttle / semi fast services. TfL staff should, of course, find out about validity Paddington to Hayes / Heathrow next year when TfL take over the Heathrow Connect service. |
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Post by sunnyday on Jul 12, 2017 17:29:10 GMT
It may be like the situation on the GE side where MTR Crossrail employees are allowed to use the faster GA services on production of a TFL Staff Oyster card and our MTR Crossrail id pass. All other TFL Staff Oyster Card holders are limited to the slower TFL (Crossrail) services.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 19:10:53 GMT
Probably the same setup as an All Zones Annual Travel Card.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 16, 2018 10:46:32 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Mar 16, 2018 17:57:57 GMT
For those who want the excrutiating and full detail behind the fares decision on TfL Rail (later Crossrail) fares out of Paddington to Heathrow then here is the Mayoral Direction. www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/md2245_heathrow_signed_pdf.pdfI'm slowly working my through the paper so no comments until then. EDITAs I've now read it a few observations. - basically a retained premium on PAYG fares of £7 if travelling from or across Zone 1 to reach Heathrow via TfL Rail - a premium of around £4.50 on top of TfL PAYG fares if travelling from West London / along the line from Paddington. - Travelcards and Daily / Weekly Caps will be valid into Heathrow without a premium charge so that lowers costs for regular users - TfL are negotiating ongoing discounted tickets for airport employees. Current discount is not funded by HAL but on a "goodwill" basis by GWR (seems a bit generous to me) - Apparently the publication of the Mayoral Direction was delayed by 2 weeks awaiting a DfT decision about "Zone 6 allocation". Shows these decisions are not entirely for the Mayor. - Existing concessionary fares for children and those on low income / seeking work also apply as does free travel for Freedom Pass holders, 60+ Pass Holders and Veterans Oyster Cards. - The Heathrow stations and HEX platforms at Paddington are all being gated. I imagine the Paddington works are more than a little involved. - Fares for Heathrow Express remain a matter for Heathrow and will not fall within the capping or Travelcard schemes. The date for HEX to accept Oyster / Contactless is yet to be announced and will be subject to the completion of gating at Paddington. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 10:32:43 GMT
I live in Reading and have the opposite problem. Currently I can use my Senior Railcard on the RailAir Heathrow bus and London Travelcards - a return train fare to London and unlimited travel in U1-U6. What will be happening with the Elizabeth line when it comes to Reading?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 19, 2018 10:46:37 GMT
I live in Reading and have the opposite problem. Currently I can use my Senior Railcard on the RailAir Heathrow bus and London Travelcards - a return train fare to London and unlimited travel in U1-U6. What will be happening with the Elizabeth line when it comes to Reading? It will accept railcards, as it's a National Rail service. |
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Post by snoggle on Mar 19, 2018 10:57:23 GMT
I live in Reading and have the opposite problem. Currently I can use my Senior Railcard on the RailAir Heathrow bus and London Travelcards - a return train fare to London and unlimited travel in U1-U6. What will be happening with the Elizabeth line when it comes to Reading? I can't see that that will change. There is no suggestion that Travelcards won't continue to be available from Reading. Crossrail is a National Rail service and will accept Railcards etc. You will probably have the option, if you wished, to buy an Oyster Card and have a railcard discount set on it which will give you access to reduced fares / daily caps on Crossrail and within London. I say "probably" on the basis that nothing has yet been said about whether Oyster Cards will be sold at Reading or at other intermediate stations run by GWR on the way in to London. We will have to wait until some time in 2019 for those details to be confirmed. |
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 27, 2018 17:44:05 GMT
Talking about fares, but at a different end of the gamut, as this will be a NR service I assume that passes such as the All Line Rover and BritRail / Eurail will be accepted - not just on the existing stations but also at all new build subterranean stations in Central London.
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Post by greggygreggygreg on Mar 27, 2018 18:27:39 GMT
Talking about fares, but at a different end of the gamut, as this will be a NR service I assume that passes such as the All Line Rover and BritRail / Eurail will be accepted - not just on the existing stations but also at all new build subterranean stations in Central London. Simon I would imagine so - just as they are accepted on London Overground, including the East London Line bit which was 'new' for National Rail purposes. |
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Post by snoggle on Mar 28, 2018 15:42:07 GMT
Talking about fares, but at a different end of the gamut, as this will be a NR service I assume that passes such as the All Line Rover and BritRail / Eurail will be accepted - not just on the existing stations but also at all new build subterranean stations in Central London. Absolutely no reason why they wouldn't be. I've used Inter-Rails on the RER in Paris which is an analogous example. Will be an interesting variant for LUL staff to have to cope with at gatelines at places like Tottenham Court Road and Bond St. I assume staff at Farringdon may already have some familiarity given years of Thameslink operation at that station. |
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Post by silenthunter on Mar 31, 2018 19:31:18 GMT
Are Inter-Rails valid on London Underground?
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Post by snoggle on Mar 31, 2018 19:45:35 GMT
Are Inter-Rails valid on London Underground? I don't believe they are. They'd have to be issued outside of the UK to have any UK rail validity anyway. You get no discounted travel in your home country on an Inter-rail with the exception of a possible discount of Eurostar (for UK residents heading out of the UK to the continent). Here's a list of participating rail / ferry companies. www.interrail.eu/en/trains-europe/railway-companies |
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