cso
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Post by cso on May 6, 2017 15:44:59 GMT
What would cause an S Stock to have to delay opening their doors at a station?
Happened at Chorleywood today when I was on a Chesham train... we didn't seem to move forward so it did not feel like the days of introduction where it was a common thing to need to inch forwards...
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Post by jacks on May 6, 2017 16:00:48 GMT
Over-shooting the stopping mark? With the driver having to go through the process of using a cut-out switch to be able to get the doors open.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 6, 2017 16:27:18 GMT
Over-shooting the stopping mark? With the driver having to go through the process of using a cut-out switch to be able to get the doors open Indeed quite a long procedure: - use PA advise of delay to door opening - open cab door on platform side - open glass fronted cabinet in cab with special key - turn emergency open switch - open passenger doors on platform side, using rear mounted buttons only (first 3 and last 3 doors may remain closed due to SDO and train position) - check platform/train interface - return emergency open switch to normal - close and lock glass fronted cabinet in cab - close cab door - check station starting signal - check platform/train interface - close train doors - check station starting signal
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Post by cso on May 6, 2017 16:56:56 GMT
interesting... I wasn't paying enough attention to see what happened, it just made me wonder. Thanks both
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Post by philthetube on May 7, 2017 6:56:14 GMT
Over-shooting the stopping mark? With the driver having to go through the process of using a cut-out switch to be able to get the doors open Indeed quite a long procedure: - use PA advise of delay to door opening - open cab door on platform side - open glass fronted cabinet in cab with special key - turn emergency open switch - open passenger doors on platform side, using rear mounted buttons only (first 3 and last 3 doors may remain closed due to SDO and train position) - check platform/train interface - return emergency open switch to normal - close and lock glass fronted cabinet in cab - close cab door - check station starting signal - check platform/train interface - close train doors - check station starting signal Highlighted points all designed to make it difficult to open on the wrong side as with emergency open switch doors can be opened on both sides at any location. Many trainers advise drivers to put a foot on the platform when using this procedure to make it failsafe.
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Post by version3point1 on May 8, 2017 22:00:40 GMT
Outside of Emergency Door Override (procedure explained above), the failure of an Auxiliary Converter Module would also cause doors to be slow to open/require passenger operation.
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Post by cso on May 8, 2017 22:20:30 GMT
In this particular case, the driver opened the doors rather than the passenger that I could see that wanted to leave the train.
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Post by Colin on May 9, 2017 0:04:28 GMT
Many trainers advise drivers to put a foot on the platform when using this procedure to make it failsafe. We don't train that anymore for two reasons - firstly we've had drivers fall out of train cabs where there's a gap between the train and the platform, and secondly there's a high number of locations where the S stock stopping point puts the cab door beyond the platform, so there is nothing to step out onto.
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