roythebus
Pleased to say the restoration of BEA coach MLL738 is as complete as it can be, now restoring MLL721
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Post by roythebus on Apr 21, 2017 11:34:59 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 20, 2017 21:04:33 GMT
I visited the Postal Museum and went for a ride on the Mail Rail tube train yesterday, Tuesday 19th September 2017. I thought that what the Post Office has done was fantastic and give it 9.9 / 10. My only reason for not giving it 10 / 10 was the brevity of the train ride. A longer ride would have been even better! The Postal Museum has two sites located at Mount Pleasant, which unfortunately is a London backwater in so far as despite its location it is remote from any railway services. Its about 15 minutes walk from Kings Cross St Pancras station. One of the sites is about post and telephone, the other site is about Mail Rail. Mostly the museum exhibits at the Mail Rail site are about the deep level tube line under London but the mainline postal service has not been forgotten. Visitors even have a chance to practise sorting 'letters' inside a swaying simulation of a former sorting carriage. The highlight of my visit was the ride on a converted Mail Rail tube train. The journey passes through several stations where audio-visual film displays are shown on the platform walls. There is also a simulated power cut - where the train comes to a halt and for a few seconds everyone is in pitch black. Although the Post Office railway used a third rail power supply system these trains are battery powered. Below are two images which I tweeted - at present I do not have any other images online. One shows a train at the station and the other is a still image from moving video showing the view. The trains have clear glass (or perhaps similar material, such as Perspex) covers which are closed during the journey as these afford maximum visibility whilst also preventing passengers from touching the inside of the tunnels. www.postalmuseum.org/Simon
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roythebus
Pleased to say the restoration of BEA coach MLL738 is as complete as it can be, now restoring MLL721
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Post by roythebus on Sept 29, 2017 18:43:50 GMT
Mount Pleasant is but a five minute walk from Farringdon.
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Post by zbang on Sept 29, 2017 18:54:29 GMT
Saw an announcement for that (on ianvisits?), it's on the must-do list for the next time I'm in London. (15 minute walk? Bah. I've walked 2 miles each way to see a good steam engine .)
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Post by MoreToJack on Sept 29, 2017 19:12:57 GMT
The Mail Rail ride and Postal Museum is absolutely a must do for anyone who has an interest in the past - whether you're a transport enthusiast or just a history nut. I absolutely recommend it wholeheartedly and it's excellent value for money.
I was lucky enough to get a trip on the railway just before it re-opened, as well as the chance to explore the tunnels. Here's a short film of that visit from a friend of mine.
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 29, 2017 22:50:59 GMT
That looks like a professional promotional film produced for the Postal Museum. Its a shame that the train shown has the white (rather than red) light illuminated at the back.
My film will be more personal and at one stage you will even hear my voice - talking to someone. I was thoroughly enjoying my ride and did not want to alight from the train when it was over!
However, as with Jack's film I am only going to show edited highlights of the ride and av films shown at the intermediate stations. Its not that I don't have more footage, but rather that I see how a tremendous effort went into creating that leisure ride and I don't want to steal its heartbeat by giving away all its secrets. It would be unfair, even dishonourable, and perhaps also a breach of copyright. This is not a normal public transport railway and I feel that it should be treated differently to (for instance) the first run of a new type of train or bus.
For anyone who is reading this from overseas, or for what ever other reason is unable to visit in person, I apologise in advance. My film will also only act as a 'taster' that encourages a personal visit.
I've just started editing it but because of a busy weekend coming up it might be Monday before I finish.
Simon
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 30, 2017 5:30:05 GMT
Its about 15 minutes walk from Kings Cross St Pancras station. Mount Pleasant is but a five minute walk from Farringdon. It is almost exactly midway between Farringdon and Kings Cross. Walking times according to Google Maps: Kings Cross : 16 minutes Angel: 15 minutes Farringdon: 12 minutes Russell Square: 12 minutes Chancery Lane: 10 minutes
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 4, 2017 1:27:35 GMT
It took me a little longer than expected or hoped for, but here is my film.
The Postal Museum the Post Office Railway, and more! The 'more' part includes footage of the Travelling Post Office (TPO) mailbag apparatus in action at the Didcot Railway Centre.
Enjoy!
Simon
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Post by modeng2000 on Oct 5, 2017 15:29:16 GMT
I was able to visit when it was an operating railway. It doesn't look quite right without the live rail.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 7, 2017 16:36:37 GMT
I was able to visit when it was an operating railway. It doesn't look quite right without the live rail. I feel sure that I did see some sections of track which still have the third (power) rail, although I read somewhere that it is not live. I am not sure why it was removed, perhaps it was just "belt and braces" safety. Anyway, I would expect that the rails are stored somewhere safe for eventual reinsertion, if the railway ever becomes viable again and is reopened to mail rail / other parcel etc operations. I also recall seeing some power collections shoes on the rolling stock that is on display in the museum. I assume (and would be amazed if my assumption is wrong) that despite being battery operated the two trains which are now carrying passengers were built in a way that makes them perfectly safe should they ever operate on a section of railway where the third rail has been energised. OK, its not part of any plan at present but who knows what could happen in the future? Simon
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Post by MoreToJack on Oct 7, 2017 17:36:40 GMT
The third rail that remains is not normally energised, but can be powered up should a need arise. It has been removed from the sections of line used by the new battery trains for a combination of clearance and safety reasons - the vast majority of the track retains its centre rail and is unchanged from when the railway was operational.
Part of the requirements for the attraction are that the railway can be restored to operational use if required in the future. However, this is not envisaged in the short-medium term and the new trains would not be compatible with the old systems. If the railway ever did re-open it is likely that the attraction would close.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 7, 2017 18:55:10 GMT
I am surprised. Very.
Even if the Mail Rail part of the Postal Museum closed the trains could have potentially proven useful as staff trains.
But, if clearance issues mean that they are not safe when travelling on routes equipped with a live third rail then I suppose it will mean two more additions to the sidings where disused trains are stored.
As an aside, I did film these stored trains but they were another feature that I removed from the film I placed on YouTube.
Simon
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Post by modeng2000 on Oct 8, 2017 6:31:25 GMT
The maintenance area has been changed a lot. There was an overhead supply to power the trains in the workshop. In service there were two speeds in use, a supply of 440 volts for travelling between stations and 150 volts in and around the platforms. The DC traction came from mercury arc rectifiers when I visited.
John
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 12, 2017 20:25:44 GMT
John,
From what I saw the overhead power supply is still there, I distinctly recall seeing this and some signs warning of the live overhead wires. However I do not know whether it is actually energised.
Simon
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Post by MoreToJack on Oct 12, 2017 22:15:18 GMT
John, From what I saw the overhead power supply is still there, I distinctly recall seeing this and some signs warning of the live overhead wires. However I do not know whether it is actually energised. Simon It remains in place, and operational, but like the third rail it is not live. Incidentally the floor in the depot is false, with the original track layout remaining underneath. As previously mentioned, lots of thought has gone into reuse in the future.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 12, 2017 22:50:46 GMT
John, From what I saw the overhead power supply is still there, I distinctly recall seeing this and some signs warning of the live overhead wires. However I do not know whether it is actually energised. Simon It remains in place, and operational, but like the third rail it is not live. Incidentally the floor in the depot is false, with the original track layout remaining underneath. As previously mentioned, lots of thought has gone into reuse in the future. Thanks Jack. I thought that might be the situation. I also noticed the floor, its good that reuse has been considered - unlike on the mainline railways where closures were always planned to be permanent and irreversible.
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