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Post by londoner on Mar 25, 2017 13:00:02 GMT
The other day a Picc train arrived on the westbound district platform at Hammersmith and stayed on the slow lines to Acton Town, passing all stations in between. This was during peak. I wasn't too surprised about the train going on the slow lines, I was actually surprised it didn't stop anywhere. The district had supposedly no delays when I checked online. What happened for this to occur?
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Post by PiccNT on Mar 25, 2017 13:18:59 GMT
There may well have been a trainee on board. We are trained on both fast and local lines and if we do go down the local, we only stop if we're booked to at Turnham Green only unless the District is not running for whatever reason. There may also have been an issue on the fast so the signaller will send us around the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 13:50:22 GMT
Track circuit failure
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Post by A60stock on Mar 25, 2017 14:15:03 GMT
did the train travel at full/normal line speed or was it going considerably slower? Maybe if a district stopper was in the way?
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Post by MoreToJack on Mar 25, 2017 14:18:47 GMT
A shame that such flexibility is likely to be lost as part of the upcoming SSR resignalling!
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Post by malcolmffc on Mar 25, 2017 18:22:26 GMT
I expect that given the interaction between the District and the Met line that the Piccadilly has, it will end up using the same system eventually
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 18:27:38 GMT
It will be nice if this was the case, it has been a long running tradition whereby the District and Piccadilly trains can safely share each other's tracks between Barons Court and Acton Town in both directions (Notwithstanding the Missing Platform at Chiswick Park, and the difference in rolling stock sizings!)
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Post by MoreToJack on Mar 25, 2017 20:09:17 GMT
I expect that given the interaction between the District and the Met line that the Piccadilly has, it will end up using the same system eventually Never expect the railway to go for the logical option.
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Post by londoner on Mar 25, 2017 23:42:58 GMT
did the train travel at full/normal line speed or was it going considerably slower? Maybe if a district stopper was in the way? It was certainly going slower than it would have on the fast lane, but not by too much.
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Post by piccboy on Mar 26, 2017 9:50:59 GMT
It will be nice if this was the case, it has been a long running tradition whereby the District and Piccadilly trains can safely share each other's tracks between Barons Court and Acton Town in both directions (Notwithstanding the Missing Platform at Chiswick Park, and the difference in rolling stock sizings!) Also no platform at Stamford Brook Station on the Eastbound Piccadilly, but curiously one on the Westbound! did the train travel at full/normal line speed or was it going considerably slower? Maybe if a district stopper was in the way? It was certainly going slower than it would have on the fast lane, but not by too much. All the slow platforms in both directions have a 25mph speed restriction at the exit of the platform, so Piccadilly line trains would slow for that. Also Turnham Green junction on approach signals are normally red and only clear as you near them. Locals have a 40mph speed limit, fast has a 45mph limit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 11:56:48 GMT
The signals going into Turnham Green will get selected by the programme machine as soon as the train leaves Stamford Brook as the programme machine will work via the trains TD. And yes it will still work for a Picc train If the site is in manual then your at the mercy of the signal op as to when they push the buttons.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 26, 2017 16:14:16 GMT
no platform at Stamford Brook Station on the Eastbound Piccadilly, but curiously one on the Westbound!. This is a consequence of the colourful history of that stretch. Wikipedia and "Going Green" give slightly different versions of the history but from 1912, when the station was built, the southernmost (now westbound) tracks were used by the District, and the island platform was built between those tracks. The northernmost pair either did not exist at all or were exclusively used by the LSWR, turning left at Hammersmith for Grove Road. (This is why the remains of the viaduct to Grove Road are between the two present eastbound tracks) A rearrangement to the current configuration took place in the 1930s when the Piccadilly was extended beyond Hammersmith, but as the centre pair were now intended for fast (Piccadilly) trains only, there was only a need for one new platform, on the "slow" line.
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Post by trc666 on Mar 27, 2017 14:23:00 GMT
Piccadilly using the local is fairly common, but when was the last time the District used the fast roads (either in or out of service) out of interest?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 14:45:38 GMT
I personally saw one in 2007 when we had a track circuit fail with a blown transformer at Turnham Green so the Ealing's could run
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 27, 2017 16:36:13 GMT
Piccadilly using the local is fairly common, but when was the last time the District used the fast roads (either in or out of service) out of interest? Early March 2017, point failure east exit from Ealing Common depot, diverted into Acton Town EB fast, passenger non-stop to Hammersmith, rejoined EB local.
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