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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 21:53:00 GMT
Have people noticed that the last Multiple Line Compatible DEEP-TUBE trains LUL built were the 1992 stock, which works on both the Central and Waterloo-City Lines in tandem?? Subsequent tube stocks were all built with only one tube line to mind. On the Surface lines the reverse is true, as the S-Stock is designed to work on ALL subsuface lines using a single fleet (ignoring the minor detail differences between S7 and S8 trains). On the Elizabeth line, it will be the only TFL line with no physical track connection to the rest of the TUBE system, so compatibility with the S-Stock is irrelevant.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 18, 2017 22:35:32 GMT
Have people noticed that the last Multiple Line Compatible DEEP-TUBE trains LUL built were the 1992 stock, which works on both the Central and Waterloo-City Lines in tandem?? Subsequent tube stocks were all built with only one tube line to mind. On the Surface lines the reverse is true, as the S-Stock is designed to work on ALL subsuface lines using a single fleet (ignoring the minor detail differences between S7 and S8 trains). On the Elizabeth line, it will be the only TFL line with no physical track connection to the rest of the TUBE system, so compatibility with the S-Stock is irrelevant. The 1992 stock were not originally designed for the Waterloo and City. In fact, the line had to be changed to 4th rail electrification to take them. It just so happened that the W&C needed upgrading at the same time as the Central. Nowadays, the trains on the Central and W&C are several hundred modifications apart, and thus anything but compatible!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 18, 2017 22:42:19 GMT
the Elizabeth line will be the only TFL line with no physical track connection to the rest of the TUBE system I think you've overlooked the W&C!
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Post by trc666 on Mar 18, 2017 23:02:06 GMT
The DLR is also physically isolated from all other railways.
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Post by crusty54 on Mar 19, 2017 7:42:20 GMT
the Elizabeth line will be the only TFL line with no physical track connection to the rest of the TUBE system Not surprising given the need for an overhead power supply for the trains.
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 19, 2017 8:22:18 GMT
On the Elizabeth line, it will be the only TFL line with no physical track connection to the rest of the TUBE system, so compatibility with the S-Stock is irrelevant. I'm not aware of any connection between the DLR and the Tube or SSR systems.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Mar 19, 2017 9:35:16 GMT
The Class 482s on the Waterloo & City are not the same as the 1992ts on the Central, they don't have ATP and they have tripcocks. You need specific stock and procedures training for the W&C, only the drivers at Leytonstone get this so you couldn't give a driver from Ruislip or Hainault the route training and send them down there.
Crossrail is not part of the Tube system, its a completely separate body operated by Hong Kong MTR as a concession from TfL, the same way that London Overground operates with most of its route on existing Network Rail track.
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Post by br7mt on Mar 20, 2017 22:51:53 GMT
Actually the last go anywhere tube type train was the 72TS, which is essentially a 67TS. The 73TS cars are slightly too long for certain parts of the network from a guaging perspective and 92TS traction is not cleared to operate everywhere.
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Post by piccboy on Mar 21, 2017 13:09:24 GMT
What about the 95's and 96's? I believe they are somewhere in the 90% region of part compatible, certainly the cars are the same length width etc.
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Post by MoreToJack on Mar 21, 2017 14:04:36 GMT
Can't work together due to different systems, but gauge-wise they are similar, so in theory can operate on the Northern and Jubilee lines and also parts of the Piccadilly.
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Post by up1989 on Apr 7, 2017 17:14:24 GMT
Surely won't the NTFL be a new kind of go anywhere stock as its planned for The picc Bakerloo and central? Or will there be slight differences for their respective lines?
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Post by PiccNT on Apr 7, 2017 21:49:26 GMT
NTFL is now DTUP (Deep Tube Upgrade Programme).
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Post by Red Dragon on Apr 8, 2017 9:04:45 GMT
NTFL is now DTUP (Deep Tube Upgrade Programme). How many more initials will we get through before the new trains arrive?
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Post by superteacher on Apr 8, 2017 9:23:09 GMT
Surely won't the NTFL be a new kind of go anywhere stock as its planned for The picc Bakerloo and central? Or will there be slight differences for their respective lines? The Central line ones will be longer,
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 8, 2017 9:50:34 GMT
I'm sure we will see much shorter cars than on conventional Tube Stock to provide walk-through capability and eliminate single-leaf doors. So that each Line will still have variations upon train length.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 16:13:37 GMT
The Deep Tube Upgrade Programme sounds better than Boris Johnson's New Tube for London vanity-ish name.
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Post by brigham on Apr 10, 2017 16:53:32 GMT
'New Tube for London' was an idiotic name. It took me ages to realise that it DIDN'T refer to a 'New Tube'!
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