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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 20:53:44 GMT
In this unusual video of an empty Piccadilly tube running from Hammermsith to High Street Kensington on District rails, just beyond the platform at West Kensington you can see an overgrown disused track (with a yellow stop sign on the rail) veer off to the left in the direction of Olympia Station about half a mile away. However, I wonder if that actually is an old track going to Olympia or is it a disused sidings or perhaps even both? I ask about the sidings, because when I was a kid in the 60s and 70s using the tube everyday in that part of London, trains terminating at West Kensington were not uncommon, which would seem to indicate that that track was for sidings. This thread, touches on the same subject. districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/16998/terminating-west-kensington |
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Post by MoreToJack on Jan 16, 2017 20:58:18 GMT
Spur to Lillie Bridge depot; still in use albeit rarely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 21:02:30 GMT
Diagram and additional info here, although things may (or may not) have changed somewhat since this page was written. The yellow 'stop sign' in the four foot is labelled 'entering possession' and merely indicates that there was a possession in place from that point when this video was filmed. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 16, 2017 21:18:24 GMT
3 trains out, 4 trains in M-F; 2 trains out, 3 trains in SAT; 3 trains out, 2 trains in SUN - use this connection from Lillie Bridge sidings.
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Post by notverydeep on Jan 16, 2017 21:21:22 GMT
Spur to Lillie Bridge depot; still in use albeit rarely. The District Working Time table, shown in the transparency section of the TfL webite shows that trains start from Lillie Bridge Depot daily via this route prior to entering service at Barons Court in the early morning and similarly stable using this route after coming out of service at Hammersmith. Being timetabled daily moves (and thus publicly available information), I assume this is acceptable to post within rule 7, but Mods feel free to delete if my interpretation of the rule isn't correct. <<rincew1nd: It's fine>> |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 21:26:46 GMT
Spur to Lillie Bridge depot; still in use albeit rarely. Yes, of course. And wasn't there a spur that went up the back of Earl's Court as well by the Empress? |
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Post by londoner on Jan 16, 2017 21:54:27 GMT
I don't know about the rest of you, but there is something really wonderful about seeing how all the track is connected and diverges apart.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 22:29:49 GMT
Diagram and additional info here, although things may (or may not) have changed somewhat since this page was written. The yellow 'stop sign' in the four foot is labelled 'entering possession' and merely indicates that there was a possession in place from that point when this video was filmed. Apart from the exhibition halls now gone everything is still the same including the diagram on the page |
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Post by roythebus on Jan 17, 2017 13:49:38 GMT
As an add-on to this thread, looking at the photos in link, the cabins behind the westbound platform on the left are built on the formation of the double track that used to curve round to the Midland Railway coal depot in north end Road, the site of which is now occupied by a housing estate whose raod are named after railway engineers.
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Post by alpinejohn on Jan 17, 2017 20:30:50 GMT
At approximately 15:55 into the following youtube video you will see exactly where those tracks go ..
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Post by londonstuff on Jan 17, 2017 21:10:06 GMT
At approximately 15:55 into the following youtube video you will see exactly where those tracks go .. Goodness me, that's a white knuckle ride. When you think the driver is going to stop at West Ken for the shunt signal and then just carries on at quite a speed. And going so quickly across all those points at the depot - it had my fingers clenched. How things have changed. |
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Post by superteacher on Jan 17, 2017 22:00:54 GMT
It's odd - the first thing I notice when trying to date a video is the presence (or otherwise) of yellow lines on the platforms! However did we cope without them . . .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 22:55:47 GMT
At approximately 15:55 into the following youtube video you will see exactly where those tracks go .. Thanks, that's great. It must have been filmed about 4 or 5 in the morning in the summer. I don't think I saw a single passenger on any of the platforms. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 22:57:14 GMT
It's odd - the first thing I notice when trying to date a video is the presence (or otherwise) of yellow lines on the platforms! However did we cope without them . . . According to the comments on YT, filmed in 1990 with the camera on the drivers hard hat. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 17, 2017 23:37:01 GMT
I don't think I saw a single passenger on any of the platforms. Nor any other trains, apart from one engineers' train near Hammersmith |
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Post by bassmike on Jan 18, 2017 13:56:56 GMT
Large number of running-rail expansion joints between B M and Acton.
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Post by DWS on Jan 18, 2017 17:04:02 GMT
It's odd - the first thing I notice when trying to date a video is the presence (or otherwise) of yellow lines on the platforms! However did we cope without them . . . When started on the Underground in the mid 1960's station staff used whitewash the part of the platform nearest to the running line, no announcement in those day to stand behind the white Line  |
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Post by countryman on Jan 19, 2017 8:24:00 GMT
There were two passengers on the platform at Northfields. An odd thing I noticed. Shortly after leaving Boston Manor, despite the continuous conductor rail on the left, there is a short 5-10 metre lenght of conductor on the right. Anyone know why it is there?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 8:30:54 GMT
They used to use conductor rails as jumper cables they were known as out of gauge rails they should all be gone now
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Post by countryman on Jan 19, 2017 8:35:11 GMT
They used to use conductor rails as jumper cables they were known as out of gauge rails they should all be gone now Do you mean to jump gaps in the conductor rails? I ask because both conductor rails are continuous at this point, and the short section appears to be fixed in the correct position to contact the shoes. |
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Post by PiccNT on Jan 19, 2017 11:17:56 GMT
There were two passengers on the platform at Northfields. An odd thing I noticed. Shortly after leaving Boston Manor, despite the continuous conductor rail on the left, there is a short 5-10 metre lenght of conductor on the right. Anyone know why it is there? That is an inductor rail and is still in place now. WR1a is a speed controlled signal and the inductor rail gets the speed of the train from the leading posi shoe and if it is no more than 25MPH, WR1a will clear unless of course there is a train in the section ahead or a conflicting move occurring. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:46:32 GMT
The train will also fail the inductor rail if going to slowly so you will need to wait for the second timing mechanism to take effect for the signal to clear
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:47:29 GMT
They used to use conductor rails as jumper cables they were known as out of gauge rails they should all be gone now Do you mean to jump gaps in the conductor rails? I ask because both conductor rails are continuous at this point, and the short section appears to be fixed in the correct position to contact the shoes. Yes sorry I read the original post wrong |
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