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Post by melikepie on Jan 7, 2017 14:51:03 GMT
I've always wondered. Is there a difference between train operator and train driver or why did train driver become train operator?
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Post by Chris M on Jan 7, 2017 15:14:47 GMT
I think "train operator" was initially used for the Victoria line to distinguish the people who operated an automatic train from those who manually drove older stocks.
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Post by stapler on Jan 7, 2017 15:51:25 GMT
There was a thread about a year ago connected with the replacement of "Motorman" by these - but can't locate it at present!
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Post by class411 on Jan 7, 2017 17:20:18 GMT
I was taught English at school, many years ago, and I still used the words I was taught.
Person who sits at the front of a train and makes it go and stop -> Train Driver
Person who buys a ticket and travels on a train -> Passenger
Person (on train) who informs driver it is OK to start -> Guard
Metal rods a train travels upon -> Track
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 17:25:06 GMT
There was a thread about a year ago connected with the replacement of "Motorman" by these - but can't locate it at present! I'd be interested to know when the term 'Motorman' was discontinued. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 18:48:24 GMT
Was the term motorman used on stock that were self notching? I can imagine on stock that were hand notched, that there would really be a motorman.
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Post by crusty54 on Jan 7, 2017 18:52:11 GMT
Train Operator on the Victoria Line was a promotional grade (and meant more money). The trains moved automatically to the next station after he closed the doors and his cab window and pressed two buttons.
The train could move at two speeds - slow or fast depending on pulses received from the track. No pulses the train stopped.
Most of the original guys were ASLEF members which meant the line usually operated when the NUR (now RMT) went on strike.
I think Motorman was victim of political correctness and the first women drivers.
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Post by melikepie on Jan 7, 2017 21:27:56 GMT
If train operator only originally referred to those of semi-automated trains, when did it begin to apply everyone?
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Post by stapler on Jan 7, 2017 22:01:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 17:13:55 GMT
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Post by philthetube on Jan 9, 2017 1:31:52 GMT
I was taught English at school, many years ago, and I still used the words I was taught. Person who sits at the front of a train and makes it go and stop -> Train Driver Person who buys a ticket and travels on a train -> Passenger Person (on train) who informs driver it is OK to start -> Guard Metal rods a train travels upon -> Track I would say that metal rods a train travels along are rails, the track is the whole thing including sleepers is the track, but would not bet my wages on it. |
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Post by stapler on Jan 9, 2017 8:22:20 GMT
And if they were rods (circular section) not much would stay on the rails!,
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Post by brigham on Jan 9, 2017 8:34:43 GMT
And if they were rods (circular section) not much would stay on the rails!, That would depend on the wheel profile. |
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Post by stapler on Jan 9, 2017 9:23:33 GMT
In which case,for wheels, read pulleys
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Post by Chris M on Jan 9, 2017 10:18:54 GMT
I think some rollercoasters (which are very specialised railways) run on circular section track.
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Post by class411 on Jan 9, 2017 10:55:51 GMT
I was taught English at school, many years ago, and I still used the words I was taught. Person who sits at the front of a train and makes it go and stop -> Train Driver Person who buys a ticket and travels on a train -> Passenger Person (on train) who informs driver it is OK to start -> Guard Metal rods a train travels upon -> Track I would say that metal rods a train travels along are rails, the track is the whole thing including sleepers is the track, but would not bet my wages on it. I'm pretty sure you're 100% correct. It was supposed to be a subtle dig at people who use confusing nomenclature, which can give rise to such obfuscations as : "The conductor told customers not to leave the car and get down on the road." |
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