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Post by q8 on Nov 2, 2005 18:16:35 GMT
Right you men. Stand by your beds!! Below are links to photos of Northfirlds platforms circa 1908 and Sudbury hill station buldiings. You will notice the bridge in the Northfields Photo is an arch whereas the Bridge in the Sudbury Hill pic is a girder. Also the name 'Northfields Halt' can be clearly seen. NorthfieldsSudbury Hill
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Post by russe on Nov 2, 2005 20:26:35 GMT
Right you men. Stand by your beds!! Below are links to photos of Northfirlds platforms circa 1908 and Sudbury hill station buldiings. You will notice the bridge in the Northfields Photo is an arch whereas the Bridge in the Sudbury Hill pic is a girder. Also the name 'Northfields Halt' can be clearly seen. I couldn't discern any girder bridge in the Sudbury Hill pic. Northfields Halt (Ealing) was I believe abandoned and replaced by a new station Northfields and Little Ealing. The picture you originally posted is LT Museum pic U5808. It is not Sudbury Hill. It is Northfields and Little Ealing. Later renamed simply Northfields (I think in 1932 when the station building was rebuilt). Russ
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Post by q8 on Nov 2, 2005 20:49:45 GMT
I'm still gonna differ. There IS a girder bridge in the Sudbury Hill photo. It's staring you in the face!! Also I know that Northfields was rebuilt on the other side of the road circa 1932 and the original station demolished. Now It MUST be Sudbury Hill as there is no station beyond the bridge where South Ealing should be!
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Post by setttt on Nov 2, 2005 21:22:59 GMT
Now It MUST be Sudbury Hill as there is no station beyond the bridge where South Ealing should be! Also note the lack of bridge carrying Weymouth Avenue over the formation, which, if the picture was of Northfields, would be clearly visible. The chimney pots also suggest that the image doesn't depict Northfields, as AFAIK there were never any houses built that far onto the bridge.
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Post by russe on Nov 2, 2005 22:55:44 GMT
From left to right, I see in the picture you posted a brick wall with an advertisement hoading, wicket gates, the original wooden Sudbury Hill station building, and some pale and space fencing. And in the foreground, a road. I do not see a girder bridge.
If it is Sudbury Hill, please explain LT Museum pics U924, U1990, U1991, U2858, U3635, U3636, U4140, U4534, U4997, and U5755, many of which show a nameboard declaring the place to be 'Northfields and Little Ealing'.
Or alternatively, show me a pic of the Sudbury Hill platform canopies.
Russ
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Post by setttt on Nov 2, 2005 23:14:29 GMT
I do not see a girder bridge.
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Post by Colin on Nov 2, 2005 23:56:44 GMT
THE ANSWERSWell Gentlemen the places shown are > 1. St James's Park (1906) 2. Sudbury Hill (1920's) I'm really kicking myself over St James's Park. The more I looked at it, the more I thought was - but I wasn't sure if it had always been in tunnel. Your 'Morning Guv'nor' clue sealed it for me, but, as I did'nt want to look stupid I kept quiet . Just goes to show a stab in the dark could've made me look the dogs testicles ;D ;D As for the other picture - i'll accept Sudbury Hill Q8. I wasn't born till 1975, so I can't call you a fibber (not saying you're...........sod it, where's me JCB ;D). I based my choice on a picture in the book 'Going Green, by Piers Connor (bottom of page 40). There's a (poor) copy of it in the link below - i'm sure you would agree, the canopies are identicle. images.fotopic.net/ydamdf.jpg
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Post by russe on Nov 3, 2005 0:03:48 GMT
Oh dear, this is all getting very confusing... When I said I did not see a girder bridge, I was replying to Q8's response no 60, i.e. he referred to "whereas the Bridge in the Sudbury Hill pic is a girder" and then referenced the following but entirely different context in that message: i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/Q8stock/i00007be.jpg. That picture is undeniably Sudbury Hill. This is not however the picture that is under dispute here. Russ
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Post by q8 on Nov 3, 2005 3:14:59 GMT
Now you've confuddle me Russ. I was talking of the platforms whan I said that the bridge was a girder but now you say I opined it was the road way picture. I all of a tizwas now. Night night all!
One other thing before I go. I think you'll agree that the line east of Northfields is exactly flat. However on the Sudbury Hill photo the track dips slightly under the bridge and then gently rises into the distance. As it does at Sudbury Hill.
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Post by russe on Nov 3, 2005 3:15:36 GMT
Russ (and once again, my apologies to LT Museum archive for the desecration of a wonderful image)
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Post by q8 on Nov 3, 2005 8:51:40 GMT
Now the garden photo posted by Russ is undoubtedly of Northfields as the bridge gives it away. (BTW it's NOT a girder bridge. It's the wooden panelling of the footbrige you can see)
I have just been looking at the Picc line DVD and in it you can clearly see the gentle rise of the track east of the station. As the old photo also shows the same rise I still say it is Sudbury Hill.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 22:03:43 GMT
Russ (and once again, my apologies to LT Museum archive for the desecration of a wonderful image) LOL. Excellent!! ;D ;D ;D
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