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Post by MoreToJack on Aug 30, 2017 9:28:34 GMT
Let's not do the Brexit thing again; see up thread. Besides, last I looked, we're still in Europe and the 345s have entered service... π€π
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Post by brigham on Aug 30, 2017 11:10:40 GMT
Let's not do the Brexit thing again; see up thread. Besides, last I looked, we're still in Europe and the 345s have entered service... π€π Sorry. I only have access at work, and things sometimes move too quickly. What do you suggest as a maximum time between a thread appearing, and posting a reply?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 12:48:35 GMT
What does brexit have to do with the rail network exactly plus we're leaving the EU by estimated 2020
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Post by MoreToJack on Aug 31, 2017 16:32:04 GMT
Nothing, thus the request to stop the discussion there.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Sept 1, 2017 22:50:42 GMT
Let's talk about the tweet I linked of the 710 Metalhead11000, you've been on this forum all of five minutes and in the space of six posts seem to think you can start laying down the rules about what can and can't happen in both this and another thread. You're not a moderator or an administrator and do not decide such things so please desist from this type of posting in future. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 0:07:12 GMT
But I'm not trying to lay down rules though
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 0:09:30 GMT
If anyone works for bombardier in derby please tell us if the first 710 is done thanks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 18:15:40 GMT
BTW why am I referencing brexit lol but brexit will be happening in 2019 so some 710's and maybe some 345 will be post brexit
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Sept 11, 2017 18:25:03 GMT
BTW why am I referencing brexit lol but brexit will be happening in 2019 so some 710's and maybe some 345 will be post brexit Didn't you read what moderator MoreToJack posted up-thread? If you're going to carry on like this, despite previous warnings and your spell in the sin bin, you'll be up in front of the committee again sooner rather than later. Now, pack it in.
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Post by phoenixcronin on Sept 11, 2017 19:21:18 GMT
the Select Committee?
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Sept 11, 2017 19:41:29 GMT
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 11, 2017 19:46:19 GMT
In all seriousness, @metalhead11000: you have been warned privately, temporarily suspended, warned publicly and now you are receiving this highest level of warning possible within our rules; follow the advice you have been given by the various moderators or your ability to post on District Dave's forum will be removed. You will not be warned again.
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Post by domh245 on Nov 4, 2017 17:50:45 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Nov 4, 2017 21:51:38 GMT
The orange front end makes it look like the photo colour is off as it's close enough to yellow to be familiar yet not different enough to be not-yellow at a glance - it's in the uncanny valley. It also looks like its missing some bodywork with that little tiny strip of blue.
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 4, 2017 22:30:55 GMT
It also looks like its missing some bodywork with that little tiny strip of blue. I suspect you're right, wouldn't surprise me if there's some plastic that will cover the 'buffers'.
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Post by Jerome H on Nov 5, 2017 1:08:39 GMT
I know this isn't specifically about the front design, but what was the point of making the 378s have internal pocket doors for these units to have plug doors?
On to the front, it's interesting that since this unit never had a front yellow cab it doesn't look all that much as if yellow is kissing. This is compared to how one expects new liveries on existing stock to look once they've been de-yellowed.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 5, 2017 1:13:19 GMT
I know the reason the S stock don't have sliding doors is that no manufacturer was able to offer plug doors that were able to operate at the required reliability level over the massive number of cycles operated. Could it be that technology has moved on since then?
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Post by madbess on Nov 5, 2017 12:46:43 GMT
It also looks like its missing some bodywork with that little tiny strip of blue. I suspect you're right, wouldn't surprise me if there's some plastic that will cover the 'buffers'. Looking at the first post on the thread, the rendering suggests it will! I wonder why it isn't there though?
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Post by phoenixcronin on Nov 5, 2017 13:17:29 GMT
Interesting how the slight change in headlight design makes it look much better IMHO
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Post by MoreToJack on Nov 5, 2017 13:52:54 GMT
I suspect you're right, wouldn't surprise me if there's some plastic that will cover the 'buffers'. Looking at the first post on the thread, the rendering suggests it will! I wonder why it isn't there though? Quite logical, really. These are just the initial test runs at the factory, and it's possible that further tweaks will be required before the unit is transferred for more intense dynamic testing and acceptance.
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Post by metman on Nov 5, 2017 18:03:13 GMT
It also looks like its missing some bodywork with that little tiny strip of blue. I suspect you're right, wouldn't surprise me if there's some plastic that will cover the 'buffers'. Yes it does look somewhat incomplete
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Post by snoggle on Nov 5, 2017 20:26:34 GMT
Nice to see that a unit is actually complete and has emerged blinking into the wider world.
It's going to take some getting used to seeing those on the GOBLIN and Chingford line.
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Post by Antje on Nov 11, 2017 22:45:58 GMT
It also looks like its missing some bodywork with that little tiny strip of blue. I suspect you're right, wouldn't surprise me if there's some plastic that will cover the 'buffers'. Vinyl decal things, more like. If I remember correctly from those YouTube videos, the finishing touches to the livery of the Class 345 trains were added after delivery at Ilford. I'm a gonna miss those yellow fronts: they were one of the easiest ways to tell that a train was coming.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 11, 2017 23:54:15 GMT
wouldn't surprise me if there's some plastic that will cover the 'buffers'. Vinyl decal things, more like. No, I think there's a fairing missing in the later picture - compare it with the earlier artist's impression
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Post by phil on Nov 12, 2017 11:54:09 GMT
I'm a gonna miss those yellow fronts: they were one of the easiest ways to tell that a train was coming. Your not the only one. It might take a while but I guarantee the removal of yellow WILL result in more near misses with track workers. I also note that the RSSB state in www.rssb.co.uk/Pages/visibility-of-trains-what-is-changing.aspx"There is also advice on taking care to consider the impact of choice of certain colours and designs, for example, avoiding colours associated with signal aspects or with high visibility clothing to avoid confusion" That orange looks strikingly similar to orange high vis....... (though it is admittedly much better than plain black or the front end colours chosen for TPEs new stock in the viability stakes)
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Post by phil on Nov 12, 2017 12:01:15 GMT
I know this isn't specifically about the front design, but what was the point of making the 378s have internal pocket doors for these units to have plug doors? On to the front, it's interesting that since this unit never had a front yellow cab it doesn't look all that much as if yellow is kissing. This is compared to how one expects new liveries on existing stock to look once they've been de-yellowed. Please note that yellow can only be removed from existing stock if they comply with the "Technical Specification for Interoperability (TSI) for Locomotives and Passenger Rolling Stock (LOC & PAS)" eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:JOL_2014_356_R_0004&from=ENUnless the headlight arrangement is EXACTLY (and we are talking millimetres here in terms of light position, beam alignment, LUX rating, etc) then yellow ends are still required. In laymans terms that mean pretty much every EMU, DMU and loco ordered before (including the current Overground fleet) that was designed / delivered before 2014 will still require a yellow end regardless.
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Post by Deep Level on Nov 22, 2017 19:25:16 GMT
It also looks like its missing some bodywork with that little tiny strip of blue. I suspect you're right, wouldn't surprise me if there's some plastic that will cover the 'buffers'. There are loads of photos around of the Cl345 at Derby during testing which looked like this but had a panel covering a section of the front added afterwards so I assume the Cl710 will be the same.
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Post by xercesfobe on Dec 3, 2017 9:05:05 GMT
Call me old fashioned but I like the Class 387 cab ends functional and pleasing to the eye!π
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 19, 2018 21:37:32 GMT
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Post by brigham on Apr 20, 2018 7:40:23 GMT
Looks good, but why no red buffer beam? After all, that's how you knew a train was coming!
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