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Post by q8 on Aug 11, 2005 6:50:15 GMT
Whilst not strictly a quiz I have a question. I was laying in bed last night wondering which is the longest Underground/Metro/Subway line in the world? Doesn't matter wether it's all underground or not. It's the end-to-end length that counts. New York has it's "A" line at 31 miles. London's got the Central at 34. Any bids above 34??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2005 7:23:40 GMT
I was laying in bed last night wondering... Hmmm, the things people think about when trying to sleep..... Good question though. I have no idea what the answer is.
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Post by q8 on Aug 11, 2005 7:40:14 GMT
Hmmm, the things people think about when trying to sleep.....
Good question though. I have no idea what the answer is. *********************************************
It is strange what people do while falling asleep. For some reason my thoughts always seem to turn to railways or Ancient Egypt. You work it 'cos I can't
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Post by Chris M on Aug 11, 2005 7:44:43 GMT
I'd guess the Yellow line on the Tyne and Wear Metro is longer, but I've not been able to find a figure for teh length of each line, just the whole system - and these vary between 39km and 77km!
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Post by Dmitri on Aug 11, 2005 10:19:55 GMT
my thoughts always seem to turn to railways or Ancient Egypt. You work it 'cos I can't Too much of "M-Files" ;D?
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Post by Tom on Aug 11, 2005 10:57:02 GMT
Ah yes - one of the better movie clips I've downloaded.
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Post by q8 on Aug 11, 2005 12:41:28 GMT
Wot's "M" files. I've never heard of them?
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Post by Tom on Aug 11, 2005 13:27:37 GMT
metrosoft.narod.ru/Though it takes a long time to load, even for people on Broadband connections.
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Post by Colin on Aug 11, 2005 23:18:22 GMT
Well according to Piers Connor's book 'Going Green', the District covers 40 miles, which beats the Central!!
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Post by redsam on Aug 11, 2005 23:54:33 GMT
and the Jubilee is quite long too, now, although i guess it doesnt branch at all...
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Post by q8 on Aug 12, 2005 2:32:41 GMT
Well according to Piers Connor's book 'Going Green', the District covers 40 miles, which beats the Central!! *********************************************
Ah, but that is TOTAL line length including branches. What I mean is the longest line end-to-end in a single trip without changes or divergencies.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 12, 2005 19:59:00 GMT
I've done a bit more searching and come up with an unnoficial comment about the Yellow line on the T&W Metro:
The Metro works enitrely on metric, unlike the rest of the country, but 60km translates to 37.3 miles according to google, beating the Central line. However, I beleive they are going to change the system in December so the Airport line goes to Sunderland rather than South Shields, and the St James line goes to South Shields rather than Sunderalnd. As the Sunderland extension is 14km of shared/ex Network Rail and 4.5km of new line that would make the longest line (whichever colour it gets) 41.5km (25.8 miles) plus Pelaw to Sunderland, which I don't have figures for but is not going to be the 8.2 miles needed to equal the Central line.
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Post by Colin on Aug 13, 2005 2:32:22 GMT
Ah, but that is TOTAL line length including branches. What I mean is the longest line end-to-end in a single trip without changes or divergencies. Perhaps, one day, we'll get the Uxbridge branch back......... ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2005 12:12:43 GMT
Depends on your definition of "metro". The Capital Transport (LT Museum) book "Metro Maps of the World" points out that punters will accept almost any rail system as being a metro if it has a system map done in Beck style.
The Sydney system Beck-style map extends to Wollongong, Mt Victoria, and Newcastle which are all about 100 km (60 miles) from central Sydney: to the south, west and north.
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Post by compsci on Aug 14, 2005 13:05:58 GMT
You've just brought back memories of the exchange visit I participated in to Newcastle (AUS). The train to Sydney took about the same time as one from Newcastle (UK) to London. Getting the train from Museum to International to get the flight to Japan was interrupted by having to leap from the train at Central as the "Airport Line" train was conveniently not going there The reversible seats were rather convenient, but the ones in Japan which reversed themselves were better . And no, I don't think it counts as a metro as it's part of the main line rail network.
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Post by q8 on Aug 14, 2005 14:24:50 GMT
The reversible seats were rather convenient, but the ones in Japan which reversed themselves were better . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Novel idea. Any pictures anywhere?
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Post by zman on Aug 14, 2005 17:15:36 GMT
Out of curiosity, what is the most amount of stops made on a line in a single run? Like for example, the A train in NY makes all local stops during the overnight hours and makes 58 stops from end to end and takes on average 1:50 to complete.
Anything elsewhere similar to this?
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Post by compsci on Aug 14, 2005 18:25:05 GMT
There's 46 stops on the yellow line on the Tyne & Wear Metro (soon to be 47), all of which will be made in every run except for trains coming into or out of service.
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Post by Colin on Aug 14, 2005 23:25:41 GMT
London Underground? surprise, surprise - the district line takes the crown (if i've added them up right!) ;D
Upminster - Wimbledon = 41 stops Upminster - Richmond = 42 stops Upminster - Ealing Broadway = 43 stops
The next closest is the Piccadilly line with 40 stops (Uxbridge - Cockfosters) and the Central line has 40 too (West Ruislip - Woodford via Newbury Park).
And if we ever go to Uxbridge, it would read Upminster - Uxbridge = 55 stops !!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2005 11:16:46 GMT
The reversible seats were rather convenient, but the ones in Japan which reversed themselves were better . For some reason, this reminds me of public toilets in Siena which were all high-tech: when you got off, they raised automatically and flushed all around with antiseptic solution. Except, being in Italy, they did not work and were filthy.
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Post by q8 on Aug 15, 2005 11:27:45 GMT
Except, being in Italy, they did not work and were filthy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sounds like a bum deal
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Post by compsci on Aug 15, 2005 13:27:36 GMT
Novel idea. Any pictures anywhere? I don't have any pictures, but the basic idea of the Australian ones is a flat base, with the back of the seat attached in the middle and hinged so that it can be angled in either direction, producing a seat facing either way.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 15, 2005 13:59:57 GMT
I remember seats like this on the old trams at the National Tramway Museum in Crich (another place for the pronunciation thread!)
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Post by q8 on Aug 15, 2005 17:20:19 GMT
I remember seats like this on the old trams at the National Tramway Museum in Crich (another place for the pronunciation thread!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes that is quite correct. ALL the old trams (proper ones not these new-fngled ones) had reversable seats. What fascinates me is how were the Niponese ones automated? By air or electric motors?
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Post by compsci on Aug 15, 2005 22:11:16 GMT
I didn't actually see them move as I was tying my shoelace at the time or something, but investigation of the mechanism indicated that the entire rigid seating unit (which might be three seats abreast) spins on it's mounting, presumably all at the same time, although there appeared to be a manualy pedal if you wanted to face your friends. No idea what kind of power source was used.
I think pretty much all Japanese trains do this, maybe the one in the NRM has this facility.
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