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Post by spsmiler on Sept 19, 2016 11:46:42 GMT
I've been researching the Bogie carriages which the Met introduced in 1898. Of the original 54 carriages five are still extant - four in the Metropolitan Vintage train which nowadays is owned by the Bluebell Railway and one at the London Transport museum in Covent Garden. My research is a for a webpage that includes photos of all five carriages plus more... The Bluebell Railway website includes a very detailed newspaper report from when these carriages were introduced. The link to this is below: www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/BASH/engineer.htmlWhat intrigues me is that these trains were built for three classes of travel - 1st, 2nd and 3rd. The article offers a very detailed description of the (then) brand new carriages... dimensions, heating system, lighting, materials used, braking system and more. The information about their interior furnishings describes in much detail about how the compartments for the three classes of travel were differently furnished with increasing degrees of luxury. Unfortunately what remains unknown is the split between the three classes. I am guessing that since the composites only had six compartments whilst the full thirds had seven compartments so the composites were originally for 1st and 2nd class passengers. If one compares these compartments (from the outside) with the third class compartments they look more spacious... Does anyone know if my guess is correct? Thanks Simon ps: my webpage about these carriages and other LU historic / heritage carriages can be found at this link: citytransport.info/Vintage.htm
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Post by grahamhewett on Sept 19, 2016 17:04:09 GMT
spsmiler - Snowdon's book on the Met stock states that the full seconds and thirds had 7 compartments each, firsts and the 1/3 compos 6. (As you say, this led to 3rd class punters in the compo having a luxurious amount of space!) There are drawings of these, including the 1/3 compo in the same chapter. There were also brake 2nds and brake 3rds. [Some of us remember their final incarnation on the Chesham branch with great affection, especially the lincrusta ceilings - unfortunately, the black and white photos I took on the last day have long vanished*] * On that last day, I rode out from Rickmansworth with someone who was making a sound recording of everything that moved - I wonder whether that survived - certainly Argo never produced anything subsequently.
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 19, 2016 22:22:52 GMT
Thanks Graham.
So, they produced quite a variety of rolling stock.
The last day is never the best time to decide to record sounds, unless that is you want the last day! I've already got my D stock sounds, and rides (Vivarail excepted, but that might yet be a 'first day'!)
Simon
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Post by grahamhewett on Sept 20, 2016 9:50:41 GMT
The train formations must have been a fleet manager's* despair: B2 2 1 1/3 3 3B - all different!
* Possibly fleet managers didn't exist as such in 1898.
A propos sound recordings, I wonder if anyone bothered to record the post-1923 ts with its characteristic rub-a-dub compressor noise.
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