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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 19, 2016 19:21:06 GMT
And to add that during the period whilst the electrification ended at Woodford, pending further work, the Ongar train used to hang about in Woodford's Northbound (Down) platform, awaiting the arrival of the tube train from the West End. Its Westinghouse pump wheezing away, just outside my bedroom window as I then lived in the Stationmasters house. Also has anyone else heard the tale about the Vampire jet from North Weald RAF aerodrome adjacent, crashing onto the line in a slight cutting, and the branch steam set derailing as a result of the blast?. Further to add that I was on the very first LT train in public service from Woodford to Loughton, revoltingly early one morning, only passenger apart from quite a few engineering department staff. Loads of arcing. Are you referring to the head on crash in 1952?
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Post by stapler on Dec 19, 2016 21:59:24 GMT
Lower level siding at Epping? No, unless you mean the continuation onto the EOR (which the late Cllr Ken Avey used to go on and on about converting into car park. Shades of Alfred Sherman and the Railway Conversion League.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 22:04:57 GMT
Lower level siding at Epping? No, unless you mean the continuation onto the EOR (which the late Cllr Ken Avey used to go on and on about converting into car park. Shades of Alfred Sherman and the Railway Conversion League. I think he meant the adjacent siding, otherwise known as "Epping East Siding", number 27 road. Yes it's still there. Not used much, though. No signals, either, requires lowering of the fixed red lights, I do believe.
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Post by rincew1nd on Dec 20, 2016 1:47:04 GMT
Lower level siding at Epping? No, unless you mean the continuation onto the EOR (which the late Cllr Ken Avey used to go on and on about converting into car park. Shades of Alfred Sherman and the Railway Conversion League. I think he meant the adjacent siding, otherwise known as "Epping East Siding", number 27 road. Yes it's still there. Not used much, though. No signals, either, requires lowering of the fixed red lights, I do believe. Yes, there are standard buffer-stop red lamps at the ends of both platforms.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 11:19:12 GMT
Atlas, no shed at Loughton. What you are remembering is that a loco could often be seen shunting and pottering around at Loughton in the quite extensive yard, but there wasn't a shed there. Epping was the subshed of Stratford. The ex-GN 4-42Ts were certainly used for a while, though the branch became the preserve of the 2-4-2Ts and J15s
I was using the verb "shedded" in the sense of locos being "parked" there rather than there being a building.
I still have but cannot lay hands on a Ian Allan book about LNER steam on the line which referred to the C12's being kept at Loughton. The reason for 3 locos was that there was supposed to be 1 in service, 1 in steam as a relief if the engine in service failed (and/or for yard shunting and moving stock about) and a third one for rotating with the other 2. Locos IIRC were kept at Loughton rather than Epping because there was a) more space to "park" them and b) more work for them to do.
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Post by stapler on Dec 20, 2016 12:19:45 GMT
Yes, there was often a loco at Loughton as station pilot and for working cars and goods trips. In my day, that was often a J15. I think it was early 50s that the C12s made their appearance; they did not last that long.
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Post by miff on Dec 20, 2016 20:35:39 GMT
When did the loco shed at Ongar disappear, and how was it used?
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Post by stapler on Dec 21, 2016 8:57:13 GMT
It was still going just pre WW2 (Henry Casserley's photos of Nov 1938 are on the EOR website)but was supplanted when they rebuilt Epping shed and later demolished. Someone will have the exact dates but I don't have access to them at the moment.
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Post by silenthunter on Dec 22, 2016 10:59:10 GMT
There was a goods yard there afterwards, but most of it got turned into housing in the 2000s.
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Post by miff on Dec 22, 2016 13:21:20 GMT
Yes, coal trains stopped by the end of the 60s I think but the coal merchant was still there for years afterwards. The goods shed was demolished in the 1980s, about the same time as the Ongar signal box and Epping water tower, but the yard remained derelict into this century.
The coal office and weighbridge hut are still there, looking a bit out of place at the entrance to one of the developments.
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