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Post by superteacher on Aug 24, 2016 18:55:43 GMT
I'm aware that some early morning, plate evening and Sunday services call at Gidea Park, Harold Wood and Shenfield as well as the regular ones which call at Romford. However, there is an early morning train which calls at Gidea Park and Seven Kings. Odd, since you would think that Romford and Ilford would be more obvious. The only reason I can think off is to allow drivers easy access to Gidea Park sidings and Ilford depot so that they can pick up trains.
Anyone know more?
Also, are these type of services likely to persist once Crossrail opens?
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Post by snoggle on Aug 24, 2016 22:36:18 GMT
I'm aware that some early morning, plate evening and Sunday services call at Gidea Park, Harold Wood and Shenfield as well as the regular ones which call at Romford. However, there is an early morning train which calls at Gidea Park and Seven Kings. Odd, since you would think that Romford and Ilford would be more obvious. The only reason I can think off is to allow drivers easy access to Gidea Park sidings and Ilford depot so that they can pick up trains. Anyone know more? Also, are these type of services likely to persist once Crossrail opens? I can't explain the stopping pattern issue as to the purpose. The only thing of potential relevance is that I read in this post is that the DfT have "permitted" the new Anglia franchisee (Abellio as finally confirmed today) to not have to call at a number of intermediate stops like Gidea Park, Seven Kings, Romford and Edmonton Green from the start of "TSR2" (a franchise milestone - presumably when faster, more frequent services start running to a new timetable). As Jukes said in the linked to post TSR2 is May 2019 which links in rather nicely with Crossrail running into the tunnel from the east and presumably also residual services into Liv St surface. The assumption must be that Crossrail trains will "rule the roost" from May 2019 on the local lines and faster trains don't need to stop. In the Anglia ITT there are spreadsheets setting out the tph stopping requirements. Nothing required on the local stops on the GEML for TSR2 but there is a requirement in TSR1 (effectively what it's like now) to have an early train call at Gidea Park and Seven Kings.
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Post by silenthunter on Aug 28, 2016 14:04:33 GMT
I can remember that the semi-fasts did use to stop at Ilford, but that ended years ago. There are currently two AGA trains per hour each way (one to/from Southend Victoria, the other to/from Colchester Town) that stop at Romford - I frequently get them if the timings are correct.
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Post by superteacher on Aug 28, 2016 23:10:21 GMT
I can remember that the semi-fasts did use to stop at Ilford, but that ended years ago. There are currently two AGA trains per hour each way (one to/from Southend Victoria, the other to/from Colchester Town) that stop at Romford - I frequently get them if the timings are correct. The Southend trains (off peak) used to call Stratford, Ilford, Romford then all stations to Southend. However, they used the slow lines. Back then, the metro service was every 20 mins to Gidea Park only - trains only ran to Shenfield in the peaks.
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Post by silenthunter on Aug 29, 2016 9:18:11 GMT
Yes, I believe that's correct. AGA only calls at Romford off peaks.
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