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Post by North End on Aug 13, 2017 1:35:00 GMT
The main difference between moquettes n the '95 and '96TS refers is that the former was replaced whilst the latter is the worn material from pre-refurbbishment. I'm not a fan of either (as noted up thread) but I do feel that a replacement of the moquette with new Barman would have at least improved the ambience, instead of offering a half-finished look. But it's still naff. Since LU seems to be going for a quasi-1960s retro look at the moment, I wonder what a 96 stock would look like with the red black & silver moquette used on unrefurbished A stock, 62 stock etc? I think that would suit quite well. Agree the blue Barman is why the 96 stock refresh just doesn't look right. The failure to match the moquette with the rest of the decor is the problem, made worse by the seats being worn. The Barman looks equally awful on the 92 stock because it just doesn't match at all. For as long as can be remembered there has always been an attempt to match the moquette with the interior decor, which has generally achieved pleasing results. Like many things recently, LU has lost its way a little. One minute yellow is the main interior colour getting progressively less well matched as we progress from original 96 stock through to S stock, but with the Vic seemingly doing their own thing on the 09 stock, then it's all change to blue on the 95 stock. So far so good in that thus far everything was all reasonably well matched up, if we ignore the ghastly Tube Lines moquette making an unwelcome appearance. Now we have the Bakerloo doing its own thing but at least managing to match the moquette (even if there's more silver than brown in there), then the Jubilee tries to do its own thing but makes a complete mess of it. They could have just cloned the 95 stock which most people seem reasonably content with, although personally I'd have gone for a black-based colour scheme, I always thought those three refurbished 72mk1 stock trains looked rather good.
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Post by linus on Aug 13, 2017 10:30:04 GMT
At some point in the not too distant future the Jubilee line seat coverings will have to be replaced independently of the upgrade as they're already quite worn. So maybe someone can come up with a silver-themed variant with a bit of colour relief so the interiors don't look completely drab. I like the Bakerloo variant; fits in well with their refurbs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 13:33:30 GMT
One possible ides is to put in Grey coloured hard seats in place of moquette, just a wipe clean finish to keep it looking new (Hong Kong and Amsterdam make them work) and hard seats look very smart on the Hong Kong and Amsterdam metro trains - saves maintenance costs too.
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 13, 2017 13:39:53 GMT
British commuters are creatures of habit though. There will be uproar at that!
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Post by silenthunter on Aug 13, 2017 14:16:19 GMT
Oddly enough, I believe I have watched Mystery Science Theater 3000 on the Jubilee Line... Anyway, I've never been a fan of the deep level trains. Too cramped for my taste. Save
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Post by spsmiler on Aug 13, 2017 16:09:09 GMT
No thanks to hard plastic seats!
I agree with the suggestion that the Bakerloo Line variant of Barman would be better. I say this because its colour palate includes solver grey and therefore it is more appropriate for the Jubilee Line.
Simon
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Post by zcap on Aug 16, 2017 17:00:12 GMT
100% that the Bakerloo variant of Barman would look good with the Refurbed interiors
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 18:04:07 GMT
One possible ides is to put in Grey coloured hard seats in place of moquette, just a wipe clean finish to keep it looking new (Hong Kong and Amsterdam make them work) and hard seats look very smart on the Hong Kong and Amsterdam metro trains - saves maintenance costs too. We are occassionally asked that - especially after yet another ES story on 'more germs on a tube seat than stars in the galaxy'! However a couple of reasons we continue to use moquette fabric at present - one, it is part of our brand and identity and that is important. Secondly - LU services have some long hauls, unusual for a 'metro' style service and so 50 odd minutes to Epping and a steel/plastic seat squab would probably start to feel even more uncomfortable than current offering!
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