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Post by patrickb on Jun 21, 2016 23:18:49 GMT
As LT Modellers on this forum may have heard, Kernow Model Rail Center have announced the OO Scale 4-TC.
Six versions of the 4-TC are due to be released later this year in various BR/NSE Liveries. However, for those of you who know your History, you may remember that two 4-TC units were acquired by LUL for Heritage excursions. One set which is now in private ownership was given a Metropolitan Red Livery whilst the second set which still sits at Ruislip Depot today was given a Metropolitan Wood Vinyl Livery.
At the same time, the two preserved versions of Met Bo-Bo No. 12 'Sarah Siddons' are due to be released in OO Scale by Heljan. Sarah Siddons hauled both 4-TC's throughout the mid to late 90's on various excursions on the Metropolitan and District Lines. In fact, if a Heritage Event is still planned for the Met this year and the Chesham Set is still unavailable, Sarah Siddons may run with the Ruislip 4-TC unit once again.
There is no plan from either Bachmann or KMRC to make a Metropolitan Liveried 4-TC, however, the tooling will still be available if LTM wishes to go for it.
I couldn't find many photographs of 'Sarah Siddons' and the Met Liveried 4-TC units together, however certain evidence leads to a particular event that took place around 1993/1994. If anyone has any photographs they would be happy to share, that would be great!
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Post by John Tuthill on Jun 22, 2016 8:49:09 GMT
As LT Modellers on this forum may have heard, Kernow Model Rail Center have announced the OO Scale 4-TC. Six versions of the 4-TC are due to be released later this year in various BR/NSE Liveries. However, for those of you who know your History, you may remember that two 4-TC units were acquired by LUL for Heritage excursions. One set which is now in private ownership was given a Metropolitan Red Livery whilst the second set which still sits at Ruislip Depot today was given a Metropolitan Wood Vinyl Livery. At the same time, the two preserved versions of Met Bo-Bo No. 12 'Sarah Siddons' are due to be released in OO Scale by Heljan. Sarah Siddons hauled both 4-TC's throughout the mid to late 90's on various excursions on the Metropolitan and District Lines. In fact, if a Heritage Event is still planned for the Met this year and the Chesham Set is still unavailable, Sarah Siddons may run with the Ruislip 4-TC unit once again. There is no plan from either Bachmann or KMRC to make a Metropolitan Liveried 4-TC, however, the tooling will still be available if LTM wishes to go for it. I couldn't find many photographs of 'Sarah Siddons' and the Met Liveried 4-TC units together, however certain evidence leads to a particular event that took place around 1993/1994. If anyone has any photographs they would be happy to share, that would be great! Check out 'You Tube' someone may have posted a video there
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Post by tjw on Jun 22, 2016 8:56:47 GMT
A google search for "Steam on the Met" will find photo and video, The 2000 steam on the met had both 4-TC units with a couple of Mk2s to make up two sets of 6 carriages, Sarah was used as well as the various Steam Locomotives. At Watford Sarah would pull the train into the platforms after the steam engine was taken off.
Fred Ivey and Barry Coward took plenty of footage and this should be around somewhere.
Sadly I only took a few photos and they are all awful.
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Post by metman on Jun 22, 2016 21:33:32 GMT
There is a great video of Sarah running with the 4TC in push-pull mode!
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Post by patrickb on Jun 22, 2016 23:27:32 GMT
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Post by metroland on Jun 24, 2016 18:58:33 GMT
As LT Modellers on this forum may have heard, Kernow Model Rail Center have announced the OO Scale 4-TC. I couldn't find many photographs of 'Sarah Siddons' and the Met Liveried 4-TC units together, however certain evidence leads to a particular event that took place around 1993/1994. If anyone has any photographs they would be happy to share, that would be great! Are you thinking of 1995ish? 12 "Sarah Siddons" by Sparegang, on Flickr
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Post by metroland on Jun 24, 2016 19:01:52 GMT
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 24, 2016 20:10:07 GMT
Not sure like the red window frames on Sarah there.
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Post by patrickb on Jun 24, 2016 22:12:32 GMT
Very nice metroland. Yes that looks about right. I actually quite like the red windows on Sarah Siddons and is why I opted for the 90's preserved Livery in model form.
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Post by rogere on Jul 21, 2016 15:02:02 GMT
There is an image of Metropolitan Railway Trailer Control Unit, former Class 438 4TC vehicle, Number 76324 at Amersham in "teak" on Wikipedia (copyright Oxyman):
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Post by MoreToJack on Jul 21, 2016 17:10:42 GMT
Indeed, "teak" (vinyl) is the livery it currently carried. Seen at Eastleigh back in 2014, whilst on a railtour from Ealing Broadway to Swanage. flic.kr/p/nTFWcb
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 21, 2016 19:06:28 GMT
This film will be of interest... footage from 1995 and other more recent years showing both 4TC units and some Mk2 passenger carriages in a reddish brown livery and the surviving 4TC which is in Heritage Train faux teak vinyl wrap. Plus some other trains...
Simon
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 21, 2016 19:27:19 GMT
Not sure like the red window frames on Sarah there. These are part of the London Transport livery, as seen in this view of Sarah in the 1980's at South Ealing. Hopefully the sign board about this being a brake block test locomotive can be read. On the internet I use this image on a page which includes many photos inside Sarah plus a a few of her hauling (or pushing) trains at special events. citytransport.info/Sarah-Siddons.htmGuards compartment plus a side corridor compartment on the 4TC Heritage Train This shows the that numerical characters sort of match the livery. As an aside, these two photographs also demonstrate a standard feature of varnished teak carriages, this being that there were always variations in shade (hue, colour depth) between the wooden panels which formed the carriage sides. This was because they come from a natural product of different ages. Simon
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