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Post by towerman on Apr 22, 2016 10:57:15 GMT
Is this going to be/has been removed as part of the SSR upgrade?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 14:16:59 GMT
Its still there at present don't know if its going to be removed though
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Post by towerman on Apr 22, 2016 15:28:57 GMT
When I was at Ricky in 74-75 it was used a few times when there was engineering work between Finchley Rd & Baker St,they double ended Finchley Rd SB crossed over at Swiss Cottage to Finchley Rd NB,the crew at the rear then crossed the footbridge to SB platform for their next pickup.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 18:22:58 GMT
No it isn't planned to remove this as part of the SSR upgrade. There is a separate proposal to remove it as part of the project to reduce point ends (and therefore maintenance). I don't know where this has got to though.
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Post by Tom on Apr 23, 2016 19:49:38 GMT
No it isn't planned to remove this as part of the SSR upgrade. There is a separate proposal to remove it as part of the project to reduce point ends (and therefore maintenance). I don't know where this has got to though. The project you refer to is part of the 4 Line Modernisation (formerly known as the SSR Upgrade) Programme. It is not in that project's scope. There is a plan being developed to renew the aforementioned crossover some time in 2017/18, rather than abolish it. |
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Post by philthetube on Apr 23, 2016 21:10:47 GMT
It is a colour light signalled crossover and is available for passenger use, it is occasionally used when there is a shutdown at Baker street, and trains have reversed there in service on occasions. It is also used on sleet timetables to avoid the need to run de-icing trains to Baker Street. Useful both to save time/mileage, and if works are taking place down the line.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 21:27:52 GMT
Is there a wrong-road starter at Finchley Road northbound? Because, looking at pictures of Baker Street SCC, there doesn't appear to be one, which would make it seem like the crossover is only available for south-north mainline shunt moves (over which passengers may be carried, but wouldn't particularly want to be, as it would do them no good at all!)
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Post by Harsig on Apr 23, 2016 21:42:24 GMT
The crossover can only be used for south to north reversals. I've done this move in passenger service once. On that occasion a failure occurred at Baker St as my train was leaving Finchley Road. This is about the only scenario where being able to make the move in passenger service is useful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 23:20:41 GMT
No wrong road starter at Finchley Road
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Post by philthetube on Apr 24, 2016 7:50:39 GMT
Is there a wrong-road starter at Finchley Road northbound? Because, looking at pictures of Baker Street SCC, there doesn't appear to be one, which would make it seem like the crossover is only available for south-north mainline shunt moves (over which passengers may be carried, but wouldn't particularly want to be, as it would do them no good at all!) It is actually very useful for them as rather than being stuck on a train for an indeterminate period they are able to transfer to the jubilee line. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 8:05:24 GMT
Is there a wrong-road starter at Finchley Road northbound? Because, looking at pictures of Baker Street SCC, there doesn't appear to be one, which would make it seem like the crossover is only available for south-north mainline shunt moves (over which passengers may be carried, but wouldn't particularly want to be, as it would do them no good at all!) It is actually very useful for them as rather than being stuck on a train for an indeterminate period they are able to transfer to the jubilee line. Well, you're absolutely right, it is if you happen to be on a southbound Met during that golden window where it becomes apparent that an incident is in progress in the relevant area and the train is already rolling, but there is still enough time to get the train stopped and reverse it back. Certainly. But there's no reason a passenger would ever board the train in order to do the move, that would be no use to anyone. It's a get out of jail free card with a very limited window of opportunity to use it. If the train hadn't already left Finchley Road, it would surely have been tipped out. You then don't get long before the train is already past the crossover, or at least past the point where it could reasonably be expected to stop. But by all means, it's a great and rare way back to a platform, but it's a move that can only get you back where you started, you'd never use it to get anywhere, you'd never plan to have passengers on board, it's not a useful part of anybody's journey. Unlike, say, a north to south wrong road move. It's a lifebuoy to get you back on land, rather than an actual boat. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 21:07:40 GMT
No it isn't planned to remove this as part of the SSR upgrade. There is a separate proposal to remove it as part of the project to reduce point ends (and therefore maintenance). I don't know where this has got to though. The project you refer to is part of the 4 Line Modernisation (formerly known as the SSR Upgrade) Programme. It is not in that project's scope. I know what the project is called now. I was using the OP's wording to respond to the question. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 4:26:23 GMT
Or 4LM for short
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