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Post by superteacher on Apr 11, 2016 21:47:57 GMT
The caption says 1970's, but it looks like mid to late 80's to me. The trains look tatty and they have the Central line name on the car ends. I'm not sure when the trains had the "London Transport" logo replaced with the Underground roundel - late 80's?
Also, the dodgy fashions suggest 1980's too!
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Post by theblackferret on Apr 11, 2016 22:18:27 GMT
Weird-the fashions are casual enough to be the 1980's rather than the 70's, but the cars outside (can't read the flipping plates!) defo look 1970's or 60's in one case.
Wonder if it's been spliced together, though the unit has the same graffiti on at the start & finish?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 11, 2016 22:25:47 GMT
1962 Stock fitted with the outside cab jumper boxes for PA equipment, recommended after King's Cross fire (1987).
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Post by stapler on Apr 12, 2016 10:23:39 GMT
I'd have put this late 80s or even early 90s. The trains had got into dreadful external condition by then and received little attention bar scrubbing off the worst daubings
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 12, 2016 10:56:34 GMT
After a lot of false leads, I think I have identified the car at the beginning, with its distinctive raked rear quarter light, as a Mark 1 Vauxhall/Opel Senator, with the lowered bonnet line identifying it as a post-1982 facelift version. They went on sale in 1983. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Senator#/media/File:Opel_Senator_front_20080303.jpg. This would therefore date the film to 1983 at the earliest. If we could make out the badge we might pin it down a bit more, as the Vauxhall version was only sold from 1984 (earlier ones were Opels) The two cars parked outside the station about half way through are a Mini (no help at all!) and some unidentifiable hatchback - possibly a Rover SD1 or a Cavalier. Was it normal for the guard to ride in the first car on the shuttle? I'm not sure when the trains had the "London Transport" logo replaced with the Underground roundel - late 80's? I'm not sure that 1962 stock ever carried roundels - it was only applied to new stock starting, I think, with 1972 Mk2 stock, and was also applied to refurbished (painted) stock, starting with the EHO 1938 stock. Unpainted pre-1972 aluminium stock carried "Underground" or "London Transport" lettering |
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Post by brigham on Apr 12, 2016 15:54:12 GMT
Running shoes for daily wear, and Crimplene(tm) ski-pants. Must be '80s.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 16:35:51 GMT
I'm not sure that 1962 stock ever carried roundels - it was only applied to new stock starting, I think, with 1972 Mk2 stock, and was also applied to refurbished (painted) stock, starting with the EHO 1938 stock. Unpainted pre-1972 aluminium stock carried "Underground" or "London Transport" lettering Looking at the Video125 DEV from the time, there were some 1962 stock with Underground roundels on them, though many units don't seem to've carried them and they certainly don't seem to've been applied to every car on the units that did.  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 12, 2016 17:03:15 GMT
they certainly don't seem to've been applied to every car on the units that did. At one time I believe the branding (whether lettering or roundel) was only applied to motor coaches. |
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Post by countryman on Apr 12, 2016 19:38:58 GMT
they certainly don't seem to've been applied to every car on the units that did. At one time I believe the branding (whether lettering or roundel) was only applied to motor coaches. Presumably DMs, not NDMs! |
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Post by hobbayne on Apr 12, 2016 19:55:01 GMT
The uniform shirt worn by the Guard at approx 01.30 dates it to approx 1990.
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Post by stapler on Apr 12, 2016 20:53:33 GMT
AIRI, roundels (of different sizes) were applied from c 1985 if the London Transport decals got damaged (eg in graffiti removal) The roundels sometimes seemed a bit out of scale with the 62s to me.
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Post by Colin D on Apr 13, 2016 0:23:15 GMT
Was it normal for the guard to ride in the first car on the shuttle? When I worked out of Hainault as a Guard in the mid/late 60's I always rode in the first car when we did the Epping Ongar shuttles. I think it was common practice with most crews at that time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 1:39:43 GMT
Was it normal for the guard to ride in the first car on the shuttle? When I worked out of Hainault as a Guard in the mid/late 60's I always rode in the first car when we did the Epping Ongar shuttles. I think it was common practice with most crews at that time. What was the advantage of doing it this way? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 13, 2016 5:40:43 GMT
What was the advantage of doing it this way? You were 3-cars closer to civilisation (the driver!) |
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Post by roythebus on Apr 25, 2016 15:56:59 GMT
Route learning/driver training/it was warmer in the front cab than in the train/driver had made the tea....
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