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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 11:59:13 GMT
I had a strange experience last night and was wondering if this is a common occurrence. I was travelling westbound from central London at around 10:30pm and at Hammersmith the train joined the Local Tracks and followed it all the way down to Turnham Green/Acton Town. The driver announced a couple of times that this was a Piccadilly Line service and it would only stop at Turnham Green. So we travelled past the Local District Stations i.e. Ravenscourt Park non-stop but on the 'Local' tracks and not on the 'Express' tracks that the Piccadilly usually takes. I have never seen this before and was wondering is this usual?
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Post by fish7373 on Feb 5, 2016 12:13:40 GMT
I think its so the drivers keep their route knowledge of the district line or a cock up on the picc. FISH7373 81C NFP
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 15:08:57 GMT
As previously mentioned it's rarely used if no engineering works are taking place. Another reason could be that a driver was being taught the route and that a instructor operator requested that train got routed down the local for training purposes.
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Post by countryman on Feb 5, 2016 16:16:25 GMT
Do Piccadilly trains still run local services on the District early morning/late at night. I remember travelling into London from Acton town very early one morning in the mid 90s and was surprised that the Piccadilly train ran all stations to Hammersmith on the slow line.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:45:54 GMT
No booked moves only station they stop at is Turnham Green but they still operate on the fast.
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Post by rummer on Feb 6, 2016 16:16:22 GMT
As said before it could be a training move or sometimes if there is a signal problem on the fast between Hammersmith and Acton Town they sometimes send a Picaddilly line train down the local line, but normally its non stop until it reaches Acton Town
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Post by rheostar on Mar 5, 2016 7:42:20 GMT
Earlier this week the Piccadilly line ran down the local lines on several occasions.
Following the derailment at Ealing Broadway, to provide a service at Chiswick Park the Piccadilly line diverted the Uxbridge service via the local lines on both east and westbound. This provided a train approximately every 10/15 minutes depending on the time of day.
During a signal failure at Chiswick Park, the eastbound service was diverted via the local lines whilst staff worked on the track to fix problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 10:16:36 GMT
The failure at Chiswick Park was a piece of packing on the walk board of the bridge just east of the station, but it was the local tracks making the track bounce on the fast which was causing the failure on the e/b fast.
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Post by rheostar on Mar 5, 2016 10:46:55 GMT
The failure at Chiswick Park was a piece of packing on the walk board of the bridge just east of the station, but it was the local tracks making the track bounce on the fast which was causing the failure on the e/b fast. I hate those sorts failures, they're a nightmare to find. That's a difficult place to work in during traffic hours too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 16:19:49 GMT
On the piccadilly line twitter feed they have just showed a picture of the offending bridge
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 16:20:48 GMT
The failure at Chiswick Park was a piece of packing on the walk board of the bridge just east of the station, but it was the local tracks making the track bounce on the fast which was causing the failure on the e/b fast. I hate those sorts failures, they're a nightmare to find. That's a difficult place to work in during traffic hours too. Quite easy to find difficult to prove
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Post by rheostar on Mar 5, 2016 18:13:59 GMT
I hate those sorts failures, they're a nightmare to find. That's a difficult place to work in during traffic hours too. Quite easy to find difficult to prove Just a shame it wasn't found during the previous day's failure. lol
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Post by londoner on Mar 5, 2016 18:46:28 GMT
I was once on a Westbound Piccadilly line service on the express tracks. It left Hammersmith as normal, passed Ravenscourt Park (still on express track) and then stopped at Stamford Brook. One lucky guy got on my car. It then passed Turnham Green and Chiswick Park. After Acton Town, there was a fire alert at Ealing Common, so it passed that station too! Finally, it terminated at South Harrow on the Eastbound tracks and I had a long wait for the next train towards Uxbridge!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 19:24:30 GMT
Quite easy to find difficult to prove Just a shame it wasn't found during the previous day's failure. lol No Comment
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 6, 2016 12:55:18 GMT
Events such as this, although rare, demonstrate how useful it is for trains of one line to be able to use the other line's tracks... when the need arises. Of course the platform issue is something else, as trains can only stop at stations where there are platform faces alongside the track they are using.
Its a shame that the resignalling will see the ending of this ability to use the 'other' tracks.
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Post by castlebar on Mar 6, 2016 16:19:24 GMT
@ spsmiler
Exactly. Building in expensive inflexibility. Crazy. Ealing Common becomes "a problem in waiting"
I remember when the District ran out as far as Hounslow West. If anyone 50 years ago had "decreed" that good money was going to be wasted on building in such inflexibility, they would have been Sectioned
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 19:49:24 GMT
@ spsmiler Exactly. Building in expensive inflexibility. Crazy. Ealing Common becomes "a problem in waiting" I remember when the District ran out as far as Hounslow West. If anyone 50 years ago had "decreed" that good money was going to be wasted on building in such inflexibility, they would have been Sectioned The CBTC signalling will be over laid onto the conventional signalling so shouldn't be any problems where the District and Picc share tracks. But there is a debate where will the trains be able to run in ATO. If not the trains will be running in manual Acton Town going west.
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Post by roythebus on Mar 7, 2016 13:08:52 GMT
Conversely, when I worked on the DR back in the early 1970's, we came out of Ealing Broadway one sunny afternoon with an R stock bound for Upminster; got stopped outside Acton Town and I saw one of the then new Sentinel shunters go underneath us complete with track0circuit wagon. There was a bit of a bang and we stopped for quite a long time. My motorman told me the diesel had failed underneath us, we couldn't use the e/b District, so would be going fast line to Hammersmith! So we had a fast ride non-stop Acton Town to Hammersmith with an R stock on the Piccadilly Line. What surprised me was the ride quality on the Picc, considering how the Picc stock used to bounce about at speed.
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Post by brigham on Mar 8, 2016 15:06:15 GMT
Inflexibility seems to be all the rage at the moment. Segregation is the new goal.
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