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Jan 20, 2016 13:01:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 13:01:25 GMT
Today at Northwick Park a S stock set train 775 this was not in service but it has passengers and 2 large studio lights taped to the front. Does anybody know what this train might of been doing.
The time was around 13:55 on Wednesday 20th.
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Post by domh245 on Jan 20, 2016 13:12:46 GMT
Unsurprising. The AIT project has been under "strategic review" for at least a year now, owing to its numerous delays and spiralling costs. Other projects are looking at adding many of the functions of both the Track Recording Train and AIT to passenger stock - temporarily or permanently - as a possible alternative. Considering the AIT made its first movements back in 2010 - with the project commencing some years before that - it's clear that it is taking far too long to deliver at a reasonable price; a hang-over from Tube Lines' time as PPP contractor, no doubt... It might be something to do with this? My guess would be that they are trialling fitting lamps and recording equipment to an S stock with a view to potentially using one as a track recording train |
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Jan 20, 2016 13:31:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 13:31:56 GMT
Unsurprising. The AIT project has been under "strategic review" for at least a year now, owing to its numerous delays and spiralling costs. Other projects are looking at adding many of the functions of both the Track Recording Train and AIT to passenger stock - temporarily or permanently - as a possible alternative. Considering the AIT made its first movements back in 2010 - with the project commencing some years before that - it's clear that it is taking far too long to deliver at a reasonable price; a hang-over from Tube Lines' time as PPP contractor, no doubt... It might be something to do with this? My guess would be that they are trialling fitting lamps and recording equipment to an S stock with a view to potentially using one as a track recording train That's probably what's happening isn't the A stock being withdrawn from internal operations? |
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Train 775
Jan 20, 2016 13:56:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 13:56:32 GMT
AVI train I think they call it???
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Post by humbug on Jan 20, 2016 14:01:14 GMT
Today at Northwick Park a S stock set train 775 this was not in service but it has passengers and 2 large studio lights taped to the front. I'm a little concerned about this. Is it normal to carry passengers in this way?  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 20, 2016 15:27:22 GMT
A 7xx number indicates a special working so I expect that everyone on board was LU staff, (whether taped to the front or riding inside)! This arrangement always looked very uncomfortable for the unfortunate engineer - *in the British sense of the word - required to take readings from the front end - extremely hot and feeling rather vulnerable if the driver, whose vision is obscured even more than usual, misses a signal! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 16:15:34 GMT
Why would LU staff be taped to the front? Surely a H & S breach
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 16:46:48 GMT
Why would LU staff be taped to the front? Surely a H & S breach It's cheaper then cameras |
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Post by MoreToJack on Jan 20, 2016 16:58:14 GMT
AVI train I think they call it??? Auto-visual inspection train, or AVIT. Runs regularly along the network (local stock), and performs many of the same functions as the Track Recording Train. Here's a picture of a D stock performing AVIT duties at High Street Kensington. The set up on an S stock would be similar. flic.kr/p/qrr7oF |
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Post by MoreToJack on Jan 20, 2016 17:03:33 GMT
It might be something to do with this? My guess would be that they are trialling fitting lamps and recording equipment to an S stock with a view to potentially using one as a track recording train That's probably what's happening isn't the A stock being withdrawn from internal operations? The remaining A stock have no role relating to track recording & monitoring, and are used only for rail adhesion purposes. You'll be thinking of the 1960/73 stock Track Recording Train, which is due for withdrawal but, due to the ongoing delays to the new Asset Inspection Train (see up thread) this has been deferred. |
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Post by domh245 on Jan 20, 2016 17:22:22 GMT
AVI train I think they call it??? Auto-visual inspection train, or AVIT. Runs regularly along the network (local stock), and performs many of the same functions as the Track Recording Train. Here's a picture of a D stock performing AVIT duties at High Street Kensington. The set up on an S stock would be similar. flic.kr/p/qrr7oFI can spy 4 go-pros, but what would they all do? 1 trained on the LH rail(s), one on RH rail(s), one on the centre rail, and then one capturing a wide angle? I'm also curious about what looks like it is an old hand-held camcorder, with the large black attachment? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 18:13:23 GMT
There is also a light, laser and a camera mounted to one of the bogies as we are reminded not to directly look at it when operating as it is very bright indeed.
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Post by br7mt on Jan 20, 2016 20:38:26 GMT
The AVI run performs none of the functions available on the TRV - it is purely to capture a visual record of the railway condition. There are currently two S8 trains fitted out with the ATMS equipment for track geometry measurement, but I am unsure of whether they are operating in daily service with the equipment switched on.
It would make sense if one of those two S8's was chosen to carry the AVI equipment when required.
Regards,
Dan
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 20, 2016 20:55:28 GMT
Why would LU staff be taped to the front? Surely a H & S breach Sheer hypocrisy!  Bend the rules when it suits them  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 21:15:23 GMT
The AVI run performs none of the functions available on the TRV - it is purely to capture a visual record of the railway condition. There are currently two S8 trains fitted out with the ATMS equipment for track geometry measurement, but I am unsure of whether they are operating in daily service with the equipment switched on. It would make sense if one of those two S8's was chosen to carry the AVI equipment when required. Regards, Dan Surely it would make sense to have a S7 and a S8 fitted out with the ATMS equipment not just 2 S8's. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 20, 2016 23:45:40 GMT
I think the S8 were fitted, because that's all they had when they were tinkering. I think the plan was to roll the equipments out to all types of stock.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 27, 2016 13:49:50 GMT
Surely it would make sense to have a S7 and a S8 fitted out with the ATMS equipment not just 2 S8's. S8 car 23099 in 21099/100 S8 car 23116 in 21115/16 S7 car 23504 in 21503/04 S7 car 23506 in 21505/06 S7 car 23508 in 21507/08 are fitted with ATMS equipment. |
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