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Post by phoenixcronin on Nov 25, 2015 18:58:54 GMT
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 25, 2015 22:45:44 GMT
I'm no stock expert, but isn't one car in the 96ts a "special" trailer - built after the rest of the train.
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Post by phoenixcronin on Nov 25, 2015 22:49:46 GMT
Yes but that would be the 966xx or 967xx car, and neither of the cars in the pictures were special trailers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 23:17:52 GMT
I've seen the upside down door open buttons as well, extra trailers were ordered to make all trains 7 cars long as well as 4 (I think) complete trains, the best way to tell the difference between the original cars and the new ones is the old ones have red DMI the new ones have yellow.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 23:22:15 GMT
Arn't there some full trains built in 2005 too? They carried the original moquette pattern for longer. I think they might retain the purple armrests but i'm not sure about that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 23:41:29 GMT
Yes, I did say that in my reply above.
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Post by phoenixcronin on Nov 25, 2015 23:45:06 GMT
All true but I don't think these door pillars have anything to do with either the Special Trailers or the new 2005 builds as I found them on an old (not 2005) UNDM, and only on a single car.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 26, 2015 13:08:18 GMT
If you look closely, the lock/key hole is not additional but moved to eye level from just above ankle level. The door close button seems to be at the same hight so that would suggest the mechanism has not changed. I can't help regarding the why though.
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Post by t697 on Nov 30, 2015 18:59:31 GMT
The first 6 (if I recall correctly) trains had the 'weird' type door pillar trims. Then after a bit of value engineering the rest have the other type. The de-icing trains were delivered about every 4th train which is why 96079/80 and 96081/82 will have the weird pillars. The others will be 96001/96002 to 96007/96008 I think. The 7th car in these 'weird' trains will have the standard type.
Of course generally each of these 3 or 4 car units will be coupled to some other unit than the original 'train' one. I think the OP's observation of the adjacent UNDM and trailer must both be in the other unit coupled to 81's that day.
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